Tuscan MK1 rear wheel malpositioned
Tuscan MK1 rear wheel malpositioned
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votan

Original Poster:

72 posts

174 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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The right rear wheel of my 2001 Tuscan somehow is malpositioned and needs some serious alignemtn. Though, the wheel has not been hit or whatever.... it just is out of alignment (camber and toe-in). How would someone change the alignment?
Tried to find some images or how-to's, but it always seems like the geometry is just fixed.... What it probably isn't...
Any help is very much appreciated.

dvs_dave

9,040 posts

249 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Any pics? Have you had a look at the suspension from under the car? How does the car drive? Is the tyre worn oddly?

keith24

87 posts

210 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Have you just had an alignment check? Do you know if it has gone off or has been like this for a long time?

I had a similar problem after had my first chim. Someone had previosly jacked the car on the lower arm, bending it and hence screwing up the geometry

Cheers keith

votan

Original Poster:

72 posts

174 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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I'll try to take some pics later today. Did not check the suspension yet....
Car drives pretty straight though and there is no excessive tire-wear.

Had no alignment check yet but will probably do so very soon. It's already misaligned for a longer time...
Sounds reasonable, that someone maybe bent some parts when trying to jack the car.

BTW.... what would be the best spots to place a jack without bending anything?

NCE 61

2,448 posts

305 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Jacking points:-




votan

Original Poster:

72 posts

174 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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So, I just took some pics to show the situation. I also just checked the car from below... nothing bend or damaged in any way.
Measured distances from tire to chassis and they are mostly identical.. So nothing that could cause that much difference lookwise from the outer side.
Also found the screw to at least modify the convergence of the rear tyres (last image). Bus adjusting that screw would not change the overall visual misfit.
Could it be, that this is just a problem of the bodyshell not being fitted very well? Would be pretty extreme though....
From below the car, the bodyshell is mounted pretty much centered to the chassis.
Any ideas??
...and thanks for the image showing the points to jack the TVR. smile




Edited by votan on Sunday 9th October 20:17

Rich912

201 posts

240 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Have you got a front wheel fitted to the rear, they have different offsets.

blueg33

45,263 posts

248 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Rich912 said:
Have you got a front wheel fitted to the rear, they have different offsets.
That was my first thought on seeing the pics


votan

Original Poster:

72 posts

174 months

Monday 10th October 2011
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That sounds pretty plausibel! smile
Especially as after looking with that idea in mind, the right front wheel also looks malpositioned.
I will check and get tyres changed then.
Thanks for the help! smile

Allandwf

1,769 posts

219 months

Monday 10th October 2011
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You can actually see the offset gap between the hub, and the face of the wheel, so no need to take the wheels off to check.

votan

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72 posts

174 months

Monday 10th October 2011
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Ok, just checked and measured..... The rims are all the correct ones. The upper point of the right tire is closer to the arch than on the left side.... only like 0,2 inches.. and also looks like the ankle (don't know the english word for "Sturz") is different than on the left side. But the 0,2 inches can't make that much of a difference.
First thought, it might be because of a damaged spring or so, but that also seems to be fine.
The other thing might be, that the upright could be damaged.. but this material would just break and not bend upon damage!? Would it?
Any ideas how to check or what else it might be? I'm kind of lost right now....

votan

Original Poster:

72 posts

174 months

Monday 10th October 2011
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Ok, all sorted out.
There is a slotted hole at the end of the upper A-arm. The screw holding the upright in it's position somehow got lose and moved in the hole, what completely changed the geometry. Going to get a full alignment tomorrow to get that fixed and all tires aligned correctly again. Will try to post pics of the alignment screws, in case anyone needs these for whatever reason.....
Thanks for all the help! smile

votan

Original Poster:

72 posts

174 months

Tuesday 11th October 2011
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Well, after all, it does not seem so easy. After checking and adjusting the wheels, the mechanic just said "Well, british craftsmanship".... the whole body is sort of misaligned and needs to be losend to refit it again.
Can anyone post a pic of the chassis, to see where the 16 screws are located, that holde the body to the chassis?