The End of the Peugeot Cosworth

[Allyc85]

Well yesterday on the Cambrian Rally was a sad day for all true rally fans when Andy Burtons Peugeot Cosworth blew its engine on the second stage meaning an early end for the car before it is banned from next year

I only got to hear the car twice yesterday and tbh the noise it made just never wore off and to make it slightly worse, it stopped probably less than half a mile from where I was watching!

Andy has confirmed that he is buidling a new car to the new rules so im really looking forward to what he can come up with, and I hope its just as fast and sexy sounding as the pug.

[Mini1275]

Such a shame .

The car looked and sounded epic.

I'm looking forward to seeing Andy's new car.

[Streps]

That is a shame.


The car looked awesome and the sound!

[ArnageWRC]

Managed to catch it in Penmachno South, and videoed it, just in case it retired before the second run through. Awesome car. awesome sound, and not a bad driver either.
A loss to British Rallying - has been the biggest draw in British Rallying for the last 10+ years.

[YorkshirePudding]

ArnageWRC said:

A loss to British Rallying

Is the MSA trying to kill off rallying in the UK?

[anonymous-user]

YorkshirePudding said:

ArnageWRC said:

A loss to British Rallying

Is the MSA trying to kill off rallying in the UK?

I wouldn't say trying to kill off rallying as such, more kill off ingenuity in rallying, so everyone drives an r2 or group n car, none of this peugeot cosworth 306 malarky, on no

[Allyc85]

The last known sighting of the car..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jpKgx8bn_o&fea...

• sobs*

[graememac]

It will be missed and i have been lucky enough to see it several times at the woodpecker rally over the years. Hopefully he will come up with something to follow on from the Peugeot Cosworth and his previous Alfa Ferrari!

[Streps]

They ban the smart people who can build whatever they want and compete in it.
I think as long as it meets all the regulations it should be free to rally.

Huge budget should not equal success but talent.
fk them.
Feel a bit sad now.

[Skyedriver]

YorkshirePudding said:

Is the MSA trying to kill off rallying in the UK?

Think they are trying to kill off all forms of motorsport in the UK unless you have a very large wallet.

[K50 DEL]

A very sad day for UK rallying as a whole, Burton's cars have been the main draw for a huge number of spectators over the last 10 years, the MSA should be hauled over the coals for these decisions.

Anyway, this thread needs some pics, so here's 2 that I've taken of AB over the years.



and

[TankRS]

ArnageWRC said:

Managed to catch it in Penmachno South, and videoed it

Link??

Allyc85 said:

The last known sighting of the car..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jpKgx8bn_o&fea...

• sobs*

A small (noisy) chunk of British Rallying Died for me on Saturday with the final running of the PeugeotCosworth.

never had i heard such an amazing noise on a stage and doubt i will again for a long time, being too young to truly remember GrpB this for me was as close as i'd get to hearing a similar beast through a stage.

i'll always remember my nephew (only 9 a the time) hearing it coming one stage, his words were "whoah, is there a F1 car coming??" and the grin he wore from ear to ear after it hammered past at full chat, bouncing off the limit, ears close to bleeding.
And his reaction after an GrpN Evo came through after Burton “that ones crap, bring the F1 car back”

Each rally i took him too after would always be started with “is that fast loud car coming?”

Never will a GrpN Evo or Impreza ever compete with the thrill/sound of an apoaching/arriving/passing/ PeugeotCosworth. The gear whine and farting antilag on a modern GrpN by comparison is dull and limp.

Looking at the ‘yoof’ of today and how influenced they are by loud fast cars, banning Burtons car was a big Fup by the MSA/BRC. Besides Millington or high spec Mk2 Escorts never do you hear ‘that sounds amazing’ for any other car currently running in the BRC

[Cyder]

I hear a rumour that the engine will be used next year in a different car, but that following the damage on Saturday (rod through block?) Burton is going to have to mill a brand new block.

Can't wait to see what he turns up with next, but I wish I'd seen the Pug again this year before it was retired. Hopefully it'll still make appearances at Rally Day or Goodwood.

[TankRS]

someone needs to get him to enter it into hillclimbs or something similar

[ArnageWRC]

TankRS said:

someone needs to get him to enter it into hillclimbs or something similar

I remember that being mentioned when the K37 ruling was announced. Whether he takes it Hillclimbing I don't know. If he does, I'll be there - and so will many others.

[TankRS]

ArnageWRC said:

I remember that being mentioned when the K37 ruling was announced. Whether he takes it Hillclimbing I don't know. If he does, I'll be there - and so will many others.

same here

[Allyc85]

I have a Flickr group here just for the Pugworth http://www.flickr.com/groups/1556230@N20/

If anyone has any pics they would like to add and share that would be great!

My first memory of seeing (And hearing!) the car was on the Chargot stage at the Somerset Stages in 2004. The commentator went quiet quiet and I just could not believe the noise that I was hearing! Burton took the right hander in one big power slide and left the valley in one huge dust cloud that barely cleared for the next couple cars, and I was just instantly hooked!

The car has always had its problems and ive cursed it many a time when it hasnt even made it to a rally or its gone out after afew stages, but when it worked there was nothing like it, and is probably the closest il ever get to group B rallying!

Heres a couple videos ive taken of it this year!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvvV5GwR7zQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4MXhb8d9V0

[MonkeyHanger]

TankRS said:

A small (noisy) chunk of British Rallying Died for me on Saturday with the final running of the PeugeotCosworth.

never had i heard such an amazing noise on a stage and doubt i will again for a long time, being too young to truly remember GrpB this for me was as close as i'd get to hearing a similar beast through a stage.

i'll always remember my nephew (only 9 a the time) hearing it coming one stage, his words were "whoah, is there a F1 car coming??" and the grin he wore from ear to ear after it hammered past at full chat, bouncing off the limit, ears close to bleeding.
And his reaction after an GrpN Evo came through after Burton “that ones crap, bring the F1 car back”

Each rally i took him too after would always be started with “is that fast loud car coming?”

Never will a GrpN Evo or Impreza ever compete with the thrill/sound of an apoaching/arriving/passing/ PeugeotCosworth. The gear whine and farting antilag on a modern GrpN by comparison is dull and limp.

Looking at the ‘yoof’ of today and how influenced they are by loud fast cars, banning Burtons car was a big Fup by the MSA/BRC. Besides Millington or high spec Mk2 Escorts never do you hear ‘that sounds amazing’ for any other car currently running in the BRC

I've heard the "F1 car in a forest" comparison several times and it's a very fair assessment!

Even the most modern Focus WRC on a club event sounds flat in comparison. They really seem to bog down before picking up & taking off whereas the Peugeot just screams everywhere.

For me, the only thing i have ever heard that beats it is the sound of an Ex Works Gp B Sport Quattro being driven as Audi intended....and i've only heard that once

[m444ttb]

Such an awesome car. Feels like it has been around forever! For me it was the rallying equivalent to Georg Plasa's BMW e36 hillclimber.

[thunderbelmont]

Anyone remember the Alfa-Ferrari he had before the Pugsworth?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2rROTHn5y0

Now that was also mental!