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surely 60-70k will be taking TVR prices nearer that of other rivals and thus surely be shooting themselves in the foot. TVR's, i thought, were popular due to them being a 'cheapish' and yet spectacularly fast alternative to other sportscar manufacturers. opinions please !!
How many supercars with 450bhp per tonne cost as little as 60-70K then? For what it is its still within the TVR price-performance ratio (i.e. effin MAD) I'd have thought....
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surely 60-70k will be taking TVR prices nearer that of other rivals and thus surely be shooting themselves in the foot. TVR's, i thought, were popular due to them being a 'cheapish' and yet spectacularly fast alternative to other sportscar manufacturers. opinions please !!
As all of us know the fastest cars in TVRs current production range (the Cerbera 4.5 and Tuscan S) are more than a match for all present Porsche and Ferrari production models. Their performance statistics exist in Diablo territory, having said this, they are not capable of matching the likes of the Ferrari F50, Jaguar XJ220, McLaren F1 and Mercedes CLK GTin performance terms (please note prices of these cars range from £180k - £1.5 million
). The Tuscan R however will not only match these supercars (or hypercars rather!) in performance terms but it will supersede them. Note 0-60 3.2sec, 0-100 6.9sec (taken from Harrogate Horseless Carriages site) and a top speed of over 200mph!.
I for one consider the £60-70k price tag a bargain for McLaren F1 equalling performance.
Better go and revise my savings plan!
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surely 60-70k will be taking TVR prices nearer that of other rivals and thus surely be shooting themselves in the foot. TVR's, i thought, were popular due to them being a 'cheapish' and yet spectacularly fast alternative to other sportscar manufacturers. opinions please !!
As all of us know the fastest cars in TVRs current production range (the Cerbera 4.5 and Tuscan S) are more than a match for all present Porsche and Ferrari production models. Their performance statistics exist in Diablo territory, having said this, they are not capable of matching the likes of the Ferrari F50, Jaguar XJ220, McLaren F1 and Mercedes CLK GTin performance terms (please note prices of these cars range from £180k - £1.5 million
). The Tuscan R however will not only match these supercars (or hypercars rather!) in performance terms but it will supersede them. Note 0-60 3.2sec, 0-100 6.9sec (taken from Harrogate Horseless Carriages site) and a top speed of over 200mph!.
I for one consider the £60-70k price tag a bargain for McLaren F1 equalling performance.
Better go and revise my savings plan!
Hi everyone!
The Tuscan R does indeed have a bonded type chassis. In addition to the traditional tubular steel spaceframe, the R also has a aluminium honeyconb floor(which also bends up the sides!)which is bonded and bolted to the steel spaceframe. This further is extended to a full roll cage in the car. Some carbon fibre internal panels are also stressed members, and this all means.... gosh... a pretty solid car.
The Tuscan R did indeed get tweaked in the wind tunnel, and really, much more will be out this week in Autocar. The interior is totally different, there are not even any dials! A row of LED lights to tell you your RPM, and a small display. Extremely simple interior, but do check out the carbon fibre weave on the tranmission tunnel, rather pretty!
All said and done, for the money, 450bhp/tonne is what a real car is all about. It is down right noisy in the car, but then again, 'R' is the fastest letter in the alphabet...
(Please ask not how I know, I am a figment of your imagination.)
The Tuscan R does indeed have a bonded type chassis. In addition to the traditional tubular steel spaceframe, the R also has a aluminium honeyconb floor(which also bends up the sides!)which is bonded and bolted to the steel spaceframe. This further is extended to a full roll cage in the car. Some carbon fibre internal panels are also stressed members, and this all means.... gosh... a pretty solid car.
The Tuscan R did indeed get tweaked in the wind tunnel, and really, much more will be out this week in Autocar. The interior is totally different, there are not even any dials! A row of LED lights to tell you your RPM, and a small display. Extremely simple interior, but do check out the carbon fibre weave on the tranmission tunnel, rather pretty!
All said and done, for the money, 450bhp/tonne is what a real car is all about. It is down right noisy in the car, but then again, 'R' is the fastest letter in the alphabet...
(Please ask not how I know, I am a figment of your imagination.)
The car looks pretty well stunning from the front and the front three quarters, well the rear will take some getting used to though, but then again the same was said of the Tamora and in the flesh it does work bloody well.
The side on view looks like three different designers have done the front, middle and back (cover up two of the three sections with your hand on the side-on photo to see what I mean) and they haven't communicated! each section looks great but as a complete car there's something that doesn't quite gel.
All that said, I have no doubts that on the road as it disappears into a dot on the horizon, and lets
face it, what every you drive it's going to happen
, it will look and sound like the dogs appendages 
.
Harry
Obviously all IMHO, I still want one though, now were's that lotto ticket......
The side on view looks like three different designers have done the front, middle and back (cover up two of the three sections with your hand on the side-on photo to see what I mean) and they haven't communicated! each section looks great but as a complete car there's something that doesn't quite gel.
All that said, I have no doubts that on the road as it disappears into a dot on the horizon, and lets
face it, what every you drive it's going to happen
, it will look and sound like the dogs appendages . Harry
Obviously all IMHO, I still want one though, now were's that lotto ticket......
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The interior is totally different, there are not even any dials! A row of LED lights to tell you your RPM, and a small display ...
Oh no I hate digital dashboards. What is it a parts bin from a Fiat Tipo
Thats why the digital displays on Jet Fighters tend to replicate analogue ones where possible!! Don't you just hate digital clocks, takes twice as long to read the time a 'normal' clock face one takes!!
H
quote:This is thought to be because the brain is very good at recognising shape & position, so the information the dial / gauge is trying to give you can be captured with a glance. On the other hand, a digital numeric display has to be read (ie. brain has to recognise, decode and process the information), which demonstrably takes longer.
Don't you just hate digital clocks, takes twice as long to read the time a 'normal' clock face one takes!!
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The Tuscan R however will not only match these supercars (or hypercars rather!) in performance terms but it will supersede them. Note 0-60 3.2sec, 0-100 6.9sec (taken from Harrogate Horseless Carriages site) and a top speed of over 200mph!
Huh? a 450bhp/tonne ratio will certainly not allow it to follow a McLaren F1 (565bhp/tonne) !!
Excuse me but I really doubt the 0-100 figure
>> Edited by Botthom on Tuesday 21st May 10:38
Traction will be the serious problem with doing the 0-60 and 0-100 times, perhaps they should should use drag tyres!
As an aside my Skyline R34 GTR has 436bhp/ton (672bhp on the dyno, 1540kg), it also has the advantages of 4wd, 4ws and abs. I still hanker after the V8 sound from my old Chim though.
Guy
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