100 miles a day - Seat Leon Cupra R - Advice please
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I've been looking at Audi A4 1.8t S-line's but they seem to attract large premiums. So now I've started to look at the MK1 Seat Leon Cupra R. I currently commute about 103 miles a day which is pretty much all motorway. What sort of MPG can the Leon Cupra R deliver? Would a remapped one with a sports exhaust be any worse than a standard one?
Really trying to avoid buying another diesel but also trying to be sensible and workout how much more something like a 225 bhp 1.8 turbo would cost me to fuel than my old Mondeo ST Tdci which I was spending about £70 a week and getting around 550-580 miles from.
Any thoughts / advice?
Really trying to avoid buying another diesel but also trying to be sensible and workout how much more something like a 225 bhp 1.8 turbo would cost me to fuel than my old Mondeo ST Tdci which I was spending about £70 a week and getting around 550-580 miles from.
Any thoughts / advice?
Why not look up some stats on the car 
Google is your friend, failing that try Parkers as they list mpg figures as do most mag reviews such as Evo or Autocar.
Not sure on your budget, but if you want frugal and petrol, maybe look at something like the 1.5 litre Brabus ForFour. They can be remapped to over 200hp, although in standard trim I think they are 175hp and still fairly nippy. But they are light weight, so are quite frugal.
The slightly newer Mitsubishi Colt RalliArt is probably also worth a look if mpg and performance are key attributes.
Also, motorway mpg is highly affected by the speed you drive at. I suspect if you drive at 60-65mph you could gain anywhere up to 8-10mpg more than driving at 70-80mph, yet likely only make your drive 3-5 mins longer.
Google is your friend, failing that try Parkers as they list mpg figures as do most mag reviews such as Evo or Autocar.Not sure on your budget, but if you want frugal and petrol, maybe look at something like the 1.5 litre Brabus ForFour. They can be remapped to over 200hp, although in standard trim I think they are 175hp and still fairly nippy. But they are light weight, so are quite frugal.
The slightly newer Mitsubishi Colt RalliArt is probably also worth a look if mpg and performance are key attributes.
Also, motorway mpg is highly affected by the speed you drive at. I suspect if you drive at 60-65mph you could gain anywhere up to 8-10mpg more than driving at 70-80mph, yet likely only make your drive 3-5 mins longer.
A remap typically improves MPG when going slower, not drastically mind.
I use an Ibiza Cupra daily, running roughly 250bhp, doing a 22 mile trip in stop start traffic averaging 50mph. Typical mpg is about 37-39mpg going steady, real eco drive I've seen 44mpg.
On a run, in a well maintaned LCR, you should be hitting high 30's keeping speeds sensible!
I use an Ibiza Cupra daily, running roughly 250bhp, doing a 22 mile trip in stop start traffic averaging 50mph. Typical mpg is about 37-39mpg going steady, real eco drive I've seen 44mpg.
On a run, in a well maintaned LCR, you should be hitting high 30's keeping speeds sensible!
LiamM45 said:
A remap typically improves MPG when going slower, not drastically mind.
I use an Ibiza Cupra daily, running roughly 250bhp, doing a 22 mile trip in stop start traffic averaging 50mph. Typical mpg is about 37-39mpg going steady, real eco drive I've seen 44mpg.
On a run, in a well maintaned LCR, you should be hitting high 30's keeping speeds sensible!
wow, thats really good, with the clio cup, i get about 40-42 max, about 38 on avg with a few b-road blasts etc. One of the reasons I got it was because it was light, with a big(relative) engine it would do good mpg.. May look at the Ibiza.I use an Ibiza Cupra daily, running roughly 250bhp, doing a 22 mile trip in stop start traffic averaging 50mph. Typical mpg is about 37-39mpg going steady, real eco drive I've seen 44mpg.
On a run, in a well maintaned LCR, you should be hitting high 30's keeping speeds sensible!
Edited by joe_90 on Tuesday 11th October 09:16
Joe - that's keeping it under 2500rpm most of the journey. Thrash it and it drops to 25-27mpg really quickly, keep it off boost and it's pretty good.
To be fair that mileage out of your Clio is good! My friend had a 182 Trophy and it was much more thirsty than I imagined it would be.
To be fair that mileage out of your Clio is good! My friend had a 182 Trophy and it was much more thirsty than I imagined it would be.
LiamM45 said:
Joe - that's keeping it under 2500rpm most of the journey. Thrash it and it drops to 25-27mpg really quickly, keep it off boost and it's pretty good.
To be fair that mileage out of your Clio is good! My friend had a 182 Trophy and it was much more thirsty than I imagined it would be.
is that MPG per the tank to tank, or per the MFA computer? To be fair that mileage out of your Clio is good! My friend had a 182 Trophy and it was much more thirsty than I imagined it would be.
If per the MFA, i would think to get that 250hp, they have fitted you the 4 bar pressure regulator al l leon cupra R or the S3, and then it will put your MFA out a fair bit.
300bhp/ton said:
Why not look up some stats on the car Google is your friend, failing that try Parkers as they list mpg figures as do most mag reviews such as Evo or Autocar.
Because stats don't give a good indication of real world driving conditions? Google is your friend, failing that try Parkers as they list mpg figures as do most mag reviews such as Evo or Autocar.OP - I have a late mk1 Cupra R and I commute 50 miles a day on the motorway, generally free flowing and sat around 75/80mph.
My trip computer has averaged 31.5 mpg for the last 2500 miles, which includes a mix of commuting, town driving and a few hoons. On the commute, I'll generally get around 33-34 sat at 80, which will rise to 35-37 if i drive at 70.
Its a really good car to commute in actually, very well insulated, good cruise control and stereo, with plenty of punch to despatch annoying MLM's!
A friend of mine had a '53 plate Leon Cupra R, remapped with a few upgraded internals. It was never checked on a dyno but it felt commensurate with about 260bhp or thereabouts. I think he was averaging about 32mph in a roughly 50/50 mix of suburban and motorway driving, and he didn't pootle about either. If you're just cruising around, shifting up before full boost (or even any boost!) you're just waffling along nicely and you'll see some decent economy.
His had a Miltek exhaust, which sounded fantastic. The interior was pretty good too. Plasticky, but with lovely, soft and supportive bucket seats and relatively insulated from road noise (though the exhaust rumble and sucking, whining noises from the engine were ever-present). Would have made a great continent crusher, had he wanted it for that purpose. I'd say one would be quite the place to do a long drive like that.
His had a Miltek exhaust, which sounded fantastic. The interior was pretty good too. Plasticky, but with lovely, soft and supportive bucket seats and relatively insulated from road noise (though the exhaust rumble and sucking, whining noises from the engine were ever-present). Would have made a great continent crusher, had he wanted it for that purpose. I'd say one would be quite the place to do a long drive like that.
AbarthChris said:
Because stats don't give a good indication of real world driving conditions?
OP - I have a late mk1 Cupra R and I commute 50 miles a day on the motorway, generally free flowing and sat around 75/80mph.
My trip computer has averaged 31.5 mpg for the last 2500 miles, which includes a mix of commuting, town driving and a few hoons.
You couldn't make this up OP - I have a late mk1 Cupra R and I commute 50 miles a day on the motorway, generally free flowing and sat around 75/80mph.
My trip computer has averaged 31.5 mpg for the last 2500 miles, which includes a mix of commuting, town driving and a few hoons.
And the Seat Leons combined fuel consumption is...
300bhp/ton said:
Why not look up some stats on the car Google is your friend, failing that try Parkers as they list mpg figures as do most mag reviews such as Evo or Autocar.
Not sure on your budget, but if you want frugal and petrol, maybe look at something like the 1.5 litre Brabus ForFour. They can be remapped to over 200hp, although in standard trim I think they are 175hp and still fairly nippy. But they are light weight, so are quite frugal.
The slightly newer Mitsubishi Colt RalliArt is probably also worth a look if mpg and performance are key attributes.
Also, motorway mpg is highly affected by the speed you drive at. I suspect if you drive at 60-65mph you could gain anywhere up to 8-10mpg more than driving at 70-80mph, yet likely only make your drive 3-5 mins longer.
I prefer to get real world examples for people with the car rather than the quoted figures on sites like Parkers Google is your friend, failing that try Parkers as they list mpg figures as do most mag reviews such as Evo or Autocar.Not sure on your budget, but if you want frugal and petrol, maybe look at something like the 1.5 litre Brabus ForFour. They can be remapped to over 200hp, although in standard trim I think they are 175hp and still fairly nippy. But they are light weight, so are quite frugal.
The slightly newer Mitsubishi Colt RalliArt is probably also worth a look if mpg and performance are key attributes.
Also, motorway mpg is highly affected by the speed you drive at. I suspect if you drive at 60-65mph you could gain anywhere up to 8-10mpg more than driving at 70-80mph, yet likely only make your drive 3-5 mins longer.
AbarthChris said:
Because stats don't give a good indication of real world driving conditions?
But real world is highly relevant and dependent upon driving style, conditions and roads.Official figures are performed against a specified standard, this leads to comparable results.
e.g. some might be able to eek out 40mpg.... while others on a similar journey might be nearer 29mpg. Who's right?
s3fella said:
is that MPG per the tank to tank, or per the MFA computer?
If per the MFA, i would think to get that 250hp, they have fitted you the 4 bar pressure regulator al l leon cupra R or the S3, and then it will put your MFA out a fair bit.
it is on the mfa average, so probs not 100% accurate but a rough idea.If per the MFA, i would think to get that 250hp, they have fitted you the 4 bar pressure regulator al l leon cupra R or the S3, and then it will put your MFA out a fair bit.
Afaik my car runs the 3 bar fpr, I'm on the understanding I only need to upgrade to the 4 bar one should I go K04 turbo or larger.
AbarthChris said:
300bhp/ton said:
Why not look up some stats on the car Google is your friend, failing that try Parkers as they list mpg figures as do most mag reviews such as Evo or Autocar.
Because stats don't give a good indication of real world driving conditions? Google is your friend, failing that try Parkers as they list mpg figures as do most mag reviews such as Evo or Autocar.AbarthChris said:
StottyZr said:
You couldn't make this up
And the Seat Leons combined fuel consumption is...
What's funny about that?And the Seat Leons combined fuel consumption is...
God there's some assholes on this site these days.
AbarthChris said:
My trip computer has averaged 31.5 mpg for the last 2500 miles, which includes a mix of commuting, town driving and a few hoons.
Read what you've put and notice the statistical combined cycle your car should achieve is 32mpg. Talk about irony? And I'm the asshole Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff