Alarm system gone & car won't start
Alarm system gone & car won't start
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Haithabu

Original Poster:

35 posts

187 months

Wednesday 12th October 2011
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Hi,
I have the following problem since today. After having had the battery disconnected for few days I have connected it again and wanted to start the car. But using the sensor the car alarm system wouldn't react. Also my second sensor didn't work, nothing happened. Then I entered the car and tried to start the car, but the fuel pump doesn't work. Seems like the immobilzer is active and not letting the fuel pump start. But since the alarm system is not working, can this just die? Or is it possible that the ECU has gone? Would this also let the alarm system die? Shouldn't the alarm go off when the battery is connected and I try to start the car...?

TVR Jim

119 posts

185 months

Wednesday 12th October 2011
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Oh great..

I am literally about to do just the same. I've had the battery out for a few days and have just got my new one ready to go in tomorrow night..

Any steps I can take to prevent this happening?

Let me know how you get on and I'll let you know what happens tomorrow!

Fingers crossed!

bigdods

7,175 posts

258 months

Wednesday 12th October 2011
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If its a meta alarm its not unusual for it to get confused when the battery is reconnected. Disconnect the earth side of the battery, leave off for 5 secs then reconnect. Immediately press the plipper. This should reset the alarm and everything should then work as normal.

Worth a try as it only takes a few secs.

BrianMillar

192 posts

236 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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The Meta alarm should sound when the battery is disconnected.
If not it could be either the backup battery in the siren is dead or if you have a new type siren fitted the siren isolator switch is turned off.
If it’s a backup battery problem you need a new siren.


Haithabu

Original Poster:

35 posts

187 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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Hi,
If it helps it is a 1995 Chimaera 500, what alarm system it has I don't know. Will try what you all suggested and let you know....
Cheers
BrianMillar said:
The Meta alarm should sound when the battery is disconnected.
If not it could be either the backup battery in the siren is dead or if you have a new type siren fitted the siren isolator switch is turned off.
If it’s a backup battery problem you need a new siren.

Ribol

11,995 posts

289 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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bigdods said:
If its a meta alarm its not unusual for it to get confused when the battery is reconnected. Disconnect the earth side of the battery, leave off for 5 secs then reconnect. Immediately press the plipper. This should reset the alarm and everything should then work as normal.

Worth a try as it only takes a few secs.
+1

Goaty Bill

1,779 posts

182 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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Ribol said:
bigdods said:
If its a meta alarm its not unusual for it to get confused when the battery is reconnected. Disconnect the earth side of the battery, leave off for 5 secs then reconnect. Immediately press the plipper. This should reset the alarm and everything should then work as normal.

Worth a try as it only takes a few secs.
+1
+1
Exactly as described to me by Carl Baker. It worked of course.

Haithabu

Original Poster:

35 posts

187 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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It didn't work. Still no any sign of life. Being an absolute non electrician, anything you would recommend to do now...? I actually checked all fuses, these are all ok.

Ribol

11,995 posts

289 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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Have you tried the immobiliser fob on its own if you have one(?), the one that slots into the socket on the steering column, to see if that gets you going?

Failing that you may have an early Foxguard system which does not have that, the remotes have two buttons and one LED on them.

Goodwin

167 posts

244 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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If you look on the back of the fob it may give the manufacturer. Mine is a Cobra model - if so I can give some pointers, and if you are in the south east I know a chap who can help.

Colin RedGriff

2,541 posts

288 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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If you are still having problems your best bet is to call Karl Baker

http://www.tvruk.tv/www.tvruk.tv/index.html

He probably knows more about TVR alarms than anyone


Goaty Bill

1,779 posts

182 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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Colin RedGriff said:
If you are still having problems your best bet is to call Karl Baker

http://www.tvruk.tv/www.tvruk.tv/index.html

He probably knows more about TVR alarms than anyone
Agreed. One way or the other, he will get you back on the road as fast as anyone can. And usually at a more reasonable price. He will also visit; for a call out fee of course (but again reasonable in my experience).

Ribol

11,995 posts

289 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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Plus knowing him I am sure he will be only too happy to go to Switzerland to do it for you hehe

Goaty Bill

1,779 posts

182 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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Ribol said:
Plus knowing him I am sure he will be only too happy to go to Switzerland to do it for you hehe
oops. Missed that. loser <- aimed at self.

I am sure the call out charge would still be 'reasonable' smile

Haithabu

Original Poster:

35 posts

187 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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Hi there,
I have now tried the immobilizer fob, again no change. The one I have is not the one at the steering column that is actuated with this pin but the one inside the dash board accessible from the foot rest of the passenger. Nothing at all happens.
Actually there is no voltage measureable at the the immobilizer fob. How can this be explained? Is it a sign that the ECU is gone? With the ECU gone, is then alarm and central locking gone also...?

Ribol

11,995 posts

289 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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The first thing you need to find out is what make it is.

Haithabu

Original Poster:

35 posts

187 months

Sunday 16th October 2011
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Had a lock at what I believe is the alarm system...."Portman I-way Alarm System"
One box showed the name "Trackpro", another one "italamec centralina bloccaprota"....

plangston

112 posts

190 months

Sunday 16th October 2011
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If you dont hear the fuel pump, I'm not sure if you can I had the same prob in the middle of Cannes, I was told to bump start the car (1999 chim 500)I had the car towed, battery replaced, all good, but I think a bump start would of done it.

Ribol

11,995 posts

289 months

Sunday 16th October 2011
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Haithabu said:
Had a lock at what I believe is the alarm system...."Portman I-way Alarm System"
One box showed the name "Trackpro", another one "italamec centralina bloccaprota"....
"Italamec centralina bloccaporte" - is the aftermarket central locking relay TVR used.

"Trackpro" - I would guess is a tracker.

"Portman I-way Alarm System" - never heard of them.

If I lived where you do I would get the alarm/tracker ripped out and replaced by one serviced locally and start again.

sbrind4734

39 posts

251 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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speak to Carl Baker , he's the man. My sigma alarm died on me , he came up got my car going , I followed him back to his place where he had my car for a few days installing a new alarm. He even gave me a lift to and from the station.