Sticker number plates
Discussion
As far as i know they aren't strictly legal as they don't comply with BS whatever (something to do with reflective material i think). However, you are more likely to get away with it if the number plate letters are of the correct spacing, height, style etc. Also the front one is *less* of a necessity than the rear.
My car is a classic and so the number plate rules are different again, however i have stick ons front and rear. The car is currently being MOT'd - i was worried that it wouldn't pass so have kept the originals close to hand. The garage the car is with reckons the car will not have a problem (on the number plates at least!
) as he takes cars with stick on all the time for their MOT...
I haven't taken the mick with mine. They are presented exactly the same as my normal numberplates and i don't agree with changing the spacings etc. I would also argue that my car being so low, you can see the front plate more clearly for being on the bonnet.
I very much doubt that it would stand up in court however!
>> Edited by Buffalo on Thursday 17th June 20:58
My car is a classic and so the number plate rules are different again, however i have stick ons front and rear. The car is currently being MOT'd - i was worried that it wouldn't pass so have kept the originals close to hand. The garage the car is with reckons the car will not have a problem (on the number plates at least!
) as he takes cars with stick on all the time for their MOT... I haven't taken the mick with mine. They are presented exactly the same as my normal numberplates and i don't agree with changing the spacings etc. I would also argue that my car being so low, you can see the front plate more clearly for being on the bonnet.
I very much doubt that it would stand up in court however!
>> Edited by Buffalo on Thursday 17th June 20:58
If the numbers/letters are spaced correctly and are black on the correct colour reflective background they should be OK. It would be very 'picky' to start arguing about this.
I'm just preparing a 1991 Mini Cooper for Enduro rallying and it's a bit difficult to position the front plate. Under the bumper it will get knocked off almost immediately in the forests, mounted on the grille it prevents the airflow to the oil cooler/engine, and with a big sump guard you need all the airflow you can get, so on the bonnet is really the only practical option. So it'll be a stick-on one across the bonnet right above the badge or in a square to one side.
Anyway, it would only be £30 and no points if a mr. plod decided to be really childish about it.
I'm just preparing a 1991 Mini Cooper for Enduro rallying and it's a bit difficult to position the front plate. Under the bumper it will get knocked off almost immediately in the forests, mounted on the grille it prevents the airflow to the oil cooler/engine, and with a big sump guard you need all the airflow you can get, so on the bonnet is really the only practical option. So it'll be a stick-on one across the bonnet right above the badge or in a square to one side.
Anyway, it would only be £30 and no points if a mr. plod decided to be really childish about it.
Cooperman
For offroading we could solve this by sticking a number plate on the bonnet like you describe and also using wingnuts to hole the normal plate on in a more usual place, on a special modded bracket.
Driving to and from site the normal plate would be on, during the event the numberplate is removed, but the stick-on performs its duties.
I think that is a fair compromise although it would probably still come foul of the strict letter of the law. At least it shows you have gone into some effort and thought...
FWIW
For offroading we could solve this by sticking a number plate on the bonnet like you describe and also using wingnuts to hole the normal plate on in a more usual place, on a special modded bracket.
Driving to and from site the normal plate would be on, during the event the numberplate is removed, but the stick-on performs its duties.
I think that is a fair compromise although it would probably still come foul of the strict letter of the law. At least it shows you have gone into some effort and thought...
FWIW
Buffalo said:
Cooperman
For offroading we could solve this by sticking a number plate on the bonnet like you describe and also using wingnuts to hole the normal plate on in a more usual place, on a special modded bracket.
Driving to and from site the normal plate would be on, during the event the numberplate is removed, but the stick-on performs its duties.
I think that is a fair compromise although it would probably still come foul of the strict letter of the law. At least it shows you have gone into some effort and thought...
FWIW
Thanks buffalo. I may well do just that. To be honest, I don't really care and i'm so sick of all this pettyness I may just stick the plate on the bonnet and let things take their course.
You can no longer get them made, nor obtain the parts to do so yourself, due to the last round of legislation that requires plate manufacturers to display the postcode of the issuer (for some reason known only to 'them'). This supposedly prevents the criminal element from manufacturing their own dodgy plates.
I wanted one for my trailerboard not so long back and had to get a hard plastic one made up for about 5 times the cost you should have been able to get a stick-on one for.
I wanted one for my trailerboard not so long back and had to get a hard plastic one made up for about 5 times the cost you should have been able to get a stick-on one for.
gRsf12 said:
You can no longer get them made, nor obtain the parts to do so yourself, due to the last round of legislation that requires plate manufacturers to display the postcode of the issuer (for some reason known only to 'them'). This supposedly prevents the criminal element from manufacturing their own dodgy plates.
I wanted one for my trailerboard not so long back and had to get a hard plastic one made up for about 5 times the cost you should have been able to get a stick-on one for.
Why sir, I made my own only last weekend! For a law to be enforceable it has to have a modicum of common sense. Once out of the shop, prove who made it and when. Can't be done, most of the shops round here only care about seeing a V5. After that, it's up to you.
How else will the bike get a 160x75mm numberplate
Most commercial sign-making companies are able to source the Scotchlite white or yellow reflective adhesive film.
You can buy black Fablon from your local hardware store and print out the letters at the correct size and font from Microsoft 'Word'. Then, just mark off the letters onto the black Fablon and cut them out with a straight edge and a very sharp blade.
Alternatively, commercial sign-makers can cut the letters for you on a computer controlled cutting machine. They don't care what you use them for and selling self-adhesive numbers is not illegal (yet!).
You can buy black Fablon from your local hardware store and print out the letters at the correct size and font from Microsoft 'Word'. Then, just mark off the letters onto the black Fablon and cut them out with a straight edge and a very sharp blade.
Alternatively, commercial sign-makers can cut the letters for you on a computer controlled cutting machine. They don't care what you use them for and selling self-adhesive numbers is not illegal (yet!).
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