Battery Tax?
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Brilad

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598 posts

219 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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I know the subject has been touched upon in other threads but I don't think there is a specific thread about this, so here goes.

What does everyone think HMG will do if the majority of drivers do opt for much more efficient vehicles?

We all know that the taxman tends to get a bit 'tetchy' if he is not getting his poound and a half of flesh, so I wonder if they will wait until there are millions of happy battery users and suddenly whack a tax on voltage?

I wouldn't put it past them, having swapped to a diesel in 1997 only to be hit with a huge hike in diesel taxation a few months after I bought the bloody thing.

shotput.

LuS1fer

43,517 posts

275 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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They'll have to get some bright spark to assess the current situation amp then make a decision.

Tax has always beeen based on the way goods become popular. I would guess road charging will be a more likely way of taxing all vehicle use eventually or a road tax structure based on the power output.

bazking69

8,620 posts

220 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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Once it's taken off they'll dump the grants and reliefs and tax it. They always do.

Puddenchucker

5,879 posts

248 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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...followed by road pricing - Pay-as-you-drive - will be implemented for all vehicles.

RemainAllHoof

80,068 posts

312 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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Of course! Things like congestion charge will increase massively; they'll just say it's now about congestion, not pollution.

kambites

71,483 posts

251 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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yes Road charging is my bet. Probably on motorways and in city centres, initially.

essexplumber

7,756 posts

203 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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RemainAllHoof said:
Of course! Things like congestion charge will increase massively; they'll just say it's now about congestion, not pollution.
But Red Ken said it was about congestion, the lying bd. Notice he didn't want to extend the zone east into an equally congested area, didn't want to upset the cultural beliefs of his core of voters.

RemainAllHoof

80,068 posts

312 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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essexplumber said:
But Red Ken said it was about congestion, the lying bd. Notice he didn't want to extend the zone east into an equally congested area, didn't want to upset the cultural beliefs of his core of voters.
Yep! First they said congestion, then air quality... once air quality improves, it'll be back to congestion.

TonyRPH

13,539 posts

198 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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The environmental aspect of disposing of all those batteries when they fail is surely going to attract a hefty tax, in the same way there is a disposal cost for tyres and I'm pretty sure there is already a disposal charge for standard (lead acid) car batteries.

Edited by TonyRPH on Saturday 15th October 12:40

hogfisch

294 posts

221 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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TonyRPH said:
The environmental aspect of disposing of all those batteries when they fail is surely going to attract a hefty tax, in the same way there is a disposal cost for tyres and I'm pretty sure there is already a disposal charge for standard (lead acid) car batteries.

Edited by TonyRPH on Saturday 15th October 12:40
They already do through the producer responsiblity provisions of the Batteries Directive. In essence, whoever places a battery on a Member State market has to finance arrangements for the collection and recycling of the battery at end-of-life (including those incorporated to vehicles).

kambites

71,483 posts

251 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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Plus I think it's commercially viable to recycle most types of battery.

busta

4,504 posts

263 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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TonyRPH said:
The environmental aspect of disposing of all those batteries when they fail is surely going to attract a hefty tax, in the same way there is a disposal cost for tyres and I'm pretty sure there is already a disposal charge for standard (lead acid) car batteries.

Edited by TonyRPH on Saturday 15th October 12:40
If your paying to get rid of old car batteries someone is making a killing! They have a scrap value of about £20.

TonyRPH

13,539 posts

198 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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busta said:
If your paying to get rid of old car batteries someone is making a killing! They have a scrap value of about £20.
I have actually just dumped them at the local council tip in the past.

Never even gave it a thought that they'd actually be worth something, least of all £20 !


redstu

2,287 posts

269 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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busta said:
If your paying to get rid of old car batteries someone is making a killing! They have a scrap value of about £20.
Pikies stole mine, had them at the front of the house to take to the yard. Man in van calls and asks if I wanted them, I said yes as I was going to take them to the recyclers. Following morning they had gone.

XitUp

7,690 posts

234 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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Road pricing.

So ICE cars will pay fuel tax, VED AND the road fees.