996 & 964 turbo (grandson meets grandad)!
996 & 964 turbo (grandson meets grandad)!
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Sifly

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572 posts

209 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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My brother in-law has just bought a lovely black 996 turbo with factory fitted Aero-kit. I had the privilege of collecting it on his behalf and looking after it for a few days until he could come and pick it up.

I own a 964 turbo but have never really been keen on the 996. But wow, I have to say how impressed I am by this car! The performance is mind-boggling to say the least, and the drivability and handling are in a different league to my old 965.

The extra width and curves of the 996t make it quite a looker, and the view of those rear wing air intakes every time you look in the wing mirrors makes for quite a thrill!

This has to be one of the most all rounded performance cars of the last century. Well built, easy to drive, comfortable, massively reliable and space for two + 2! I even managed around 24 MPG on an enthusiastic 200 mile cross country drive. On top of that, a good one can be picked up for around 25% of its original value whilst under 10 years old.

Simply outstanding bit of kit, and I shall miss it like mad next week!

Would I trade in the 965 for one?.....

Well if I had to use it more than just occasionally for pleasure, I would be very tempted, the 996t is just more usable and far more capable on the road.

But as a play thing, I would keep the 965. I still prefer its classic looks, the sound of air cooled engine and the retro driving experience. It’s not as fast, but the wallop from that single turbo charger when it comes on boost still gives me more fun factor than the extreme but fairly linear and smooth acceleration of the 996t.
I also like the fact that the traction control is my right foot and that I must respect it when near the edge or risk visiting the hedge!!

Both great cars, but for different reasons. Given the choice, I’d have one of each!

















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joscal

2,616 posts

231 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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Two stunning cars but I would pick your one everytime. Beautiful and a surefire classic in my opinion.

Vixpy1

42,699 posts

295 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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That 965 is bloody lovely!

mr pg

2,068 posts

236 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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I'd go for yours too, and I went from a 964 targa to a 996T. As you say, stunning performance, but there's just something about 964's.

jonamv8

3,302 posts

197 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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Like - A lot

That 964 is stunning, great condition. Ive got the exact spec 996 but I'd struggle to pick out of those two

StuB

6,695 posts

270 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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Very nice pics.

guyvert1

2,165 posts

273 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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Loving it...

fel71

478 posts

240 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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That's my fantasy garage sorted then.cloud9

taaffy

1,120 posts

270 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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996 is an ugly duckling next to the 965 ....

g7jhp

7,035 posts

269 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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Great write up.

The 996 turbo does look so much better in the flesh, then again the 964 turbo looks so much better as well!

Really comes down to use - daily (996) v fun (964).

Crimp a Length!

5,697 posts

254 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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Honest write up and spot on.
I'm totally with you having owned both in the past, mine was a black 6t with the aerokit.
They are not photogenic cars but in the flesh they look fabulous.
The 964 turbo sure is a looker, but i never really got on with mine, but thats just me and its all subjective.

I have a disease though its called "i love all 911's" and once you've got it your fked.

porkey

630 posts

203 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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By modern standards a 964T is not that fast and can be a bit agricultural to drive.
They are, however, really nice looking and very entertaining to drive.
Them 996 headlights are truly hideous.


Legacywr

15,869 posts

219 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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porkey said:
By modern standards a 964T is not that fast and can be a bit agricultural to drive.
They are, however, really nice looking and very entertaining to drive.
Them 996 headlights are truly hideous.
+1

all2ofme

855 posts

219 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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I LOVE the inside of that 964. Gorgeous. Even if the ergonomics are all to hell.

ras62

1,115 posts

187 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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That 964 looks beautiful, but I didn't realise the front wing arches were so much wider than a n/a 964!

x12yhp

903 posts

219 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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The 964 is in stunning shape. I saw a few when I was hunting and nothing looked close to the condition of yours!

boxsey

3,579 posts

241 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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Great pics Si....but you need to promise to bring the 964T out on the road more next year. cool

marky911

4,434 posts

250 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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Nice pics and write up.

2 very clean cars! smile


f1ten

2,165 posts

184 months

Monday 24th October 2011
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have to say cracking to see the 2 cars lined up next to each other. my 996tt with aero kit is silver, have to say the black one looks bloody good.

ideally you can afford to have both. the fact is the 964 will hold its value better and if you like is more of an enthusiasts car before the days of 4wd and traction control. my car lives on the street and as a result i need something that can handle sitting out in bad weather. I would love a 964t, but until i get a garage i will have to stay with my volume manufactured 996tt. I agree that in the flesh the 996tt looks so much better although the headlights arent going to please most porsche owners.

the only pleasing thing to say is that the 997tt is the most massed produced 911 turbo model ever made!

MrCooke

796 posts

226 months

Monday 24th October 2011
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Vixpy1 said:
That 965 is bloody lovely!
A dozen posts and no one's anoraked this?

I'll do it then :

That ain't a 965, it's a 964 Turbo. The 965 was an earlier concept that never made production.