50p to use your card....why?
50p to use your card....why?
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attym3

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7,259 posts

185 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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Some shops charge 50p to use your credit/debit card. Or you have to spend over £xx amount. Why is this?
I know I will get "it's only 50p" replies, but you can go in the shop next door and buy what you want for any amount with no charge. Are the shopkeepers just trying to make a quick buck?

16v_paddy

361 posts

209 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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It's because the shop has to pay a fee for every card transaction wink

Fun Bus

17,911 posts

235 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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If I've the cash on me when I'm told using my card will cost, I'll use cash. I'll also not pay to withdraw my hard earned from an ATM.

Digger

15,765 posts

208 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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How much are these alleged fees that the shop-owners have to pay?

Shaw Tarse

31,817 posts

220 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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They're charged a % , I'm not sure if there is a minimum fee?

Cock Womble 7

29,908 posts

247 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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My corner shop charges 60p for card transactions under £10.

It has become something of a hobby of mine to buy stuff for as near as £10.01 as I can.

sebhaque

6,533 posts

198 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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Most cornershops have either a fiver or a tenner limit on card purchases.

Since I only really visit my local cornershop to buy stamps, milk, or a ready meal if I've not planned myself correctly, I usually end up buying a few beers as well so I spend enough to stick it on card. Never understood why you get charged to access your own money. Wonder what the local pub would say if I told them I'd love to pay £3.60 for a pint of Heineken, but there's a transaction charge of 50p hehe

jas xjr

11,309 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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There is a fixed amount for debit cards and a % charged for credit cards.
Depending on turnover or if you are part of a trade organisation the costs can be quite reasonable.
For me it is worth paying the fees so that I do not have to deal with the feckwits at the bank , who try to tell me that I am not allowed to x y and z. Actually I am , but cannot be arsed to argue the toss

KardioKate

1,584 posts

171 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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As above, it's because of the charges. We charge 25p on credit/debit cards for transactions under £5. It's a very rare occurance anyone will actually try this, because most people will buy fags, and even L&B 20s are at £6+ now. Really what we try and discourage is people coming in, picking up a 60p chocolate bar, paying on card, and wanting £50 cashback.

We'd rather you just paid cash too smile

TheEnd

15,370 posts

205 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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sebhaque said:
Wonder what the local pub would say if I told them I'd love to pay £3.60 for a pint of Heineken, but there's a transaction charge of 50p hehe
I see this most weekends. Some people just keep on buying their drinks on a card, which means the barstaff need to find or wait for the PDQ machine, then the usual wrong PIN, then wait for a receipt, or swap to a different machine, and when asked if they want any cashback, what happens?

NO.

After all, they don't need to wait ages to get served, only the people after them!



jmorgan

36,010 posts

301 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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Time to start paying cash, then see what they think when the issue of carting the loot to the bank in ready made swag bags and why it gives them the willies especially when people in Granada's bomb around the corner.....

pete a

3,799 posts

201 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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The credit card companies take around 2% of the transaction value and debit cards incur a charge of about 25-40p per transaction.
I suppose small retailers prefer to pass the cost on to the customer if they choose to use the card rather than eat into their margins, cigarettes for example have a low profit margin per pack, so if you pay for a packet of cigarettes with a debit card then half the profit goes to the card company/bank instead of the shopkeeper.
If this in Tesco or Asda etc they can absorb this but small shopkeepers have tighter budgets to keep to.

GC8

19,910 posts

207 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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You can get 1% third party merchanting from Costco! I think that the days of 7% from Natwest are long since past.

GTIR

24,741 posts

283 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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My company charge customers 5% for credit cards (including AmEx) but free for debit cards. (as if I get paid by cheque I've got to go to the bank and I get charged for it so it's worthwhile encouraging people to pay via debit)

It cost me £25 per month standing order, £0.35 per debit card transaction, 2.5% on visa/master cards and 2.8% on AmEx, or thereabouts.

Most people charge for debit and 6% for cards so I'm cheap.

Dog Star

17,037 posts

185 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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Got to be a good "tax" on students, has that one.

I've seen the bds pay for a pint of lager on Visa.

Vieste

10,532 posts

177 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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Cock Womble 7 said:
My corner shop charges 60p for card transactions under £10.

It has become something of a hobby of mine to buy stuff for as near as £10.01 as I can.
They do not do that in mk and you are in Northampton?

Eric Mc

124,088 posts

282 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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Digger said:
How much are these alleged fees that the shop-owners have to pay?
Not alleged at all. In order for a trader to be able to accept credit or debit card transactions from their customers, they must pay fees and charges to a bank or credit card supplier. The charges are made up of a number of elements. There will be a charge based on the volume of transactions carried out each month. There will also be a monthly fixed charge for the rent of the card processing machine(s) used by the retailers.

mrtwisty

3,057 posts

182 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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Dog Star said:
Got to be a good "tax" on students, has that one.

I've seen the bds pay for a pint of lager on Visa.
Why bds? I do this all the time (well, not one pint, but often enough two and some nuts)

I just find it easier than carrying round notes and a pocket full of change. Seems I'm behaving like an incorrigible though...?

Yiliterate

3,789 posts

223 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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Huh, you want to see what the budget airlines charge for the privilidge of paying them with a credit card...

Changedmyname

12,549 posts

198 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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The % is about say, £15 per £1000.00 on average for us shop owners, so if a sale is under a fiver
it isn't worth while because then on top some companies charge an extra % on different cards.
So a transaction on a credit card is dearer than a debit to the prices change accordingly.