non-AC cayman

[khooni]

I have been offered a test drive. OPC are trying to get me out of my z4m coupe in a non- AC green Cayman R without PSE...

The problem I have with non-AC cars is how it drives on the motorway.. It is fine to keep windows down when pottering in the city but try that on the motorway and the noise is deafening..... at least no PSE will not be a problem then.....

BTW the large glasshouse will make sure that it is properly "cooking" on a fine sumeer's day
anyone else bought a non AC cayman?

[Callughan]

I've never used the AC in my car, non PSE would be more of an issue for me.

[nsm3]

PSE won't matter on the motorway - the roar from the rear tyres is substantial. Only kidding (not about the tyre noise), the PSE on this car is very good.

As to AC - I wouldn't buy one without, but then that option or the lack of, is a very subjective point?

[MogulBoy]

Personally, I dislike sweaty oxsters. Not a fan of Betty Swallocks either. Also worth remembering that in a non-AC car, you ability to demist the windscreen must be impaired. For example, you are caught out in the rain and your coat/clothes get wet. You get into the car and all that moisture has to go somewhere (first base is the relatively cool window glass - front, side and rear) but the relative humidity outside is 90%+. I supose the heater will shift it eventually, but you will have been seriously blow-dried and your oxsters and Bettys will have to deal with it!

Edited by MogulBoy on Wednesday 19th October 14:37

[outnumbered]

Speaking as the owner of a lightweight track-biased road car (M3 CSL) which had optional climate control, I'd never want to own a car without AC, and indeed most CSLs ordered in the UK had it specified...

I can't imagine why anyone would spec. a more mainstream road car like the Cayman without it.

[Actus Reus]

It'd put me right off - I'd view a Cayman R as a regular road toy, for occasional track use. Mine, without A/C switched on, was roasting just the other day. Wouldn't bother me in a Spyder, but in a hard-top over £5k in value A/C is a must IMHO.

[mikecassie]

I had acouple of hours in a GT3RS at the Silverstone Driving Experience and it did not have AC and it was horrible without it. Even the instructor commented on it. Apart from that the car was fanbloodytastic. I doubt I'd want a car without AC now.

[GBR1]

Just ask them to add it, Porsche were trying to sell me one without AC and I said it was a deal breaker and they agreed to add it..

Amazing deals on the R at the moment!!

[khooni]

Add AC?

seems like substantial work... I think that's even worse than stock non -AC
sorry, unworkable for me

[cayman-black]

GBR1 said:

Just ask them to add it, Porsche were trying to sell me one without AC and I said it was a deal breaker and they agreed to add it..

Amazing deals on the R at the moment!!

Agree,or walk away

[daveyb662]

Why on earth would anyone want to buy a modern car without AC? Surely for thoise who worry that it compromises performance, it could just be switched off. I can't imagine weight of condensors etc would make a material difference. But just not to have the option of using it on the hottest of days is silly in my eyes.
Better off spending that bit extra and getting one with the AC (and the PSE). Just haggle hard!

[thegoose]

AC recently became mandatory on new 997 Cup cars, as driver comfort and alertness was considered more important than weight saving. QED...

[Soovy]

I'd run a mile!!

Who wants to be sweaty in summer and fogged up in Winter?!

[MadRob6]

Yup Cayman R is absolute pointless without AC, nobody should ever buy one.




Let me know when it's for sale at £5000 as nobody wants it and I'll be along with a big old grin on my face

[khooni]

ok, then the question just becomes one of price..

If you say non-AC is a deal killer than what discount off the fair price would you ask for if a car would have cost 50k before it?

I have an estimate but I am keen to know what would be the " I'd do it at that price" for others knowing that you would take a bath come resale....

[khooni]

MadRob6 said:

Yup Cayman R is absolute pointless without AC, nobody should ever buy one.




Let me know when it's for sale at £5000 as nobody wants it and I'll be along with a big old grin on my face

I'll have it at £5k too..... but that is not realistic...

[outnumbered]

Personally I wouldn't buy a car for more than £1K that didn't have AC.

[DiscoColin]

To put things into perspective - there is currently one 997.2GT3RS on the market that had the aircon deleted. It has some pricey options like ceramics, the lightweight seats and the lightweight battery and is at an OPC. They have been offering it for many months - as far as I know longer than any other gen 2 RS on the market and it is currently priced as the cheapest out there too (the asking is less than a car with no options at all recently sold for, which was in turn well below asking).

Only buy without AC if you never expect to have to sell it for anything more than about 10-15% below market price. Even if you want it, nobody else will and if that didn't matter to you then you would have been the one that bought it new and specced it for something that new...

[daveyb662]

OP my 2pennies woth...personally if the fair price for one with AC was 50k I wouldn't pay more than 42 for the non AC equivalent. (All other options being the same). That's just me and I guess this is very much a personal thing on what value somebody places on the feature itself twinned with the resale problems that would undoubtedly present themselves in the future.

[MDT48]

I specced my Cayman R without aircon and haven't missed it once, even on a track day in June.

I must have switched on the AC no more than five times in my 997 in the three years I owned it, and that was only because a passenger asked me too.

Never felt the need to turn it on in the rain either.

I've just never understood the obsession with aircon in the UK considering that we get about two weeks a year of warm weather.