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odyssey2200 said:
So how long before the letter arrives?
These feckwitts are really not fit for purpose!
Guy on the ITV news says that some of the uncollected tax goes back as far as 2003.
HMRC blame the Computer!
got mine for 2009 that was a 'mistake' by previous employer not paying enough... So we worked it out and told them what we thought it should be given the circumstances and they send a letter back saying thank you very much and oh buy the way we want 10% more due to charges, blah blah blah.These feckwitts are really not fit for purpose!
Guy on the ITV news says that some of the uncollected tax goes back as far as 2003.
HMRC blame the Computer!
Hate previous employers for doing this, but since I signed the compromise agreement and the f
k was mine due to that not theirs.Damn...
So due to a mess up in Taxing via old company I was PAYE at, I owe £1473, which not disputing, but then the cheeky f
kers turned around and said:28days late (from 2008) = 5% charge
6 months late (from 2008) = 5% charge
All interest from 2008 onwards
late payment admin Fee = £100
means I owe them £323 in fees for being asked 2+ months ago (2011 July) to make sure my accounts from 2008 are correct from before when I didnt have an accountant and knew nothing of HMRC at the time as I was a grunt for a company.
Edited by Du1point8 on Wednesday 19th October 16:58
odyssey2200 said:
So how long before the letter arrives?
These feckwitts are really not fit for purpose!
Guy on the ITV news says that some of the uncollected tax goes back as far as 2003.
HMRC blame the Computer!
Look behind the headlines.These feckwitts are really not fit for purpose!
Guy on the ITV news says that some of the uncollected tax goes back as far as 2003.
HMRC blame the Computer!
HMRC perform their annual reconciliation of PAYE records in October every year. They got into real trouble last year because they had not performed the reconciliation for the two prior years and as a result some people found they had underpaid Income Tax under the PAYE system for at least three yaers. They are now making sure they do it every year to avoid last year's debacle.
This is actually occuring because HMRC are performing the reconciliation PROPERLY.
PAYE is difficult to get right when an indiviudal has more than one source of PAYE income. If this is the case, the individual's personal tax allowances (i.e. their PAYE coding) has to be accurately allocated to their main job or pension or, in some case, divided up and spread around the different sources of PAYE income. This is difficult to co-ordinate properly when the PAYE offices handling the PAYE sources are all different. Once a year HMRC performs a reconciliation to ensure that each taxpayer's PAYE has been calculated properly across the multiple PAYE sources. If it hasn't, the taxpayer will eb asked to pay any shortfalls or will receive a refund.
If the overall amounts are less than £2,000, the difference will be corrected through the current PAYE coding.
How much is just down to the nature of PAYE. Eg in the last tax year I was working PAYE, had a month off, contracted (self employed), then worked PAYE and am now taking time off to start my own business (but will probably go PAYE this tax year). Given this I expect them to 'work out' the correct tax at some point, fair play!
This still doesn't explain things like, me getting 2 completely different Notice Of Change of tax Code within 4 days of each other last month, both completely different, (and no I haven't changed jobs or benefits etc.)
That doesn't explain how, in April 2010 the decided to forget the company car I had and change my TAX code without informing me and also ignored the 5 emails from my employer telling them what cars I had in that period.
Incompetent to55ers who are allowed to fk up and then just present the bill after the fact without accountability or consequences..
That doesn't explain how, in April 2010 the decided to forget the company car I had and change my TAX code without informing me and also ignored the 5 emails from my employer telling them what cars I had in that period.
Incompetent to55ers who are allowed to f
k up and then just present the bill after the fact without accountability or consequences..Eric Mc said:
Look behind the headlines.
HMRC perform their annual reconciliation of PAYE records in October every year. They got into real trouble last year because they had not performed the reconciliation for the two prior years and as a result some people found they had underpaid Income Tax under the PAYE system for at least three yaers. They are now making sure they do it every year to avoid last year's debacle.
This is actually occuring because HMRC are performing the reconciliation PROPERLY.
PAYE is difficult to get right when an indiviudal has more than one source of PAYE income. If this is the case, the individual's personal tax allowances (i.e. their PAYE coding) has to be accurately allocated to their main job or pension or, in some case, divided up and spread around the different sources of PAYE income. This is difficult to co-ordinate properly when the PAYE offices handling the PAYE sources are all different. Once a year HMRC performs a reconciliation to ensure that each taxpayer's PAYE has been calculated properly across the multiple PAYE sources. If it hasn't, the taxpayer will eb asked to pay any shortfalls or will receive a refund.
If the overall amounts are less than £2,000, the difference will be corrected through the current PAYE coding.
A poor excuse. The calculations are NOT difficult to get right at all and any half competent body would have the correct claims out in a few weeks.HMRC perform their annual reconciliation of PAYE records in October every year. They got into real trouble last year because they had not performed the reconciliation for the two prior years and as a result some people found they had underpaid Income Tax under the PAYE system for at least three yaers. They are now making sure they do it every year to avoid last year's debacle.
This is actually occuring because HMRC are performing the reconciliation PROPERLY.
PAYE is difficult to get right when an indiviudal has more than one source of PAYE income. If this is the case, the individual's personal tax allowances (i.e. their PAYE coding) has to be accurately allocated to their main job or pension or, in some case, divided up and spread around the different sources of PAYE income. This is difficult to co-ordinate properly when the PAYE offices handling the PAYE sources are all different. Once a year HMRC performs a reconciliation to ensure that each taxpayer's PAYE has been calculated properly across the multiple PAYE sources. If it hasn't, the taxpayer will eb asked to pay any shortfalls or will receive a refund.
If the overall amounts are less than £2,000, the difference will be corrected through the current PAYE coding.
'Looking behind the headlines' the truth is that the overcomplicated, insane system is beyond many of the f
kwits paid to administer it. So they f
k it up repeatedly. End of.I was looking at the insolvency service website and noticed a "banned" co director section. Anyway a person on there was involved in MITC fraud (vat fraud). they knocked HMRC for almost 22 milion and hidden in the report was a comment that the guy was put down as a high risk but due to "failings" of a junior HMRC official he was not monitored.
How incredible they'll chase all for a few hundred pounds but let 22 million slip by because they're a bit busy
A poor excuse. The calculations are NOT difficult to get right at all and any half competent body would have the correct claims out in a few weeks.
'Looking behind the headlines' the truth is that the overcomplicated, insane system is beyond many of the fkwits paid to administer it.
So they fk it up repeatedly. End of.
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How incredible they'll chase all for a few hundred pounds but let 22 million slip by because they're a bit busy
A poor excuse. The calculations are NOT difficult to get right at all and any half competent body would have the correct claims out in a few weeks.
'Looking behind the headlines' the truth is that the overcomplicated, insane system is beyond many of the f
kwits paid to administer it. So they f
k it up repeatedly. End of.[/quote]
DSM2 said:
A poor excuse. The calculations are NOT difficult to get right at all and any half competent body would have the correct claims out in a few weeks.
'Looking behind the headlines' the truth is that the overcomplicated, insane system is beyond many of the fkwits paid to administer it.
So they fk it up repeatedly. End of.
90% of the time they actrually get it right. The problem is that there are around 30 million taxpayers handled under the PAYE system. And far more of them now have multiple earnings sources or intermittent soutrces of PAYE income.'Looking behind the headlines' the truth is that the overcomplicated, insane system is beyond many of the f
kwits paid to administer it. So they f
k it up repeatedly. End of.The system was designed during a time when individuals tended to have the same job for many, many years, usually with the same employer. It does not cope very well with the much more complicated employment and pension situations that many people have in the modern age.
You are correct in that it is most definitely overcomplicated and half the problem is that they are relying far too much on undertrained individuals or unreliable software systems.
Wings said:
^^^^^this and also the fact that successive governments have cut back on HMR&C’s resources.....
....whilst making the tax system more and more complicated.I recently had some contact with HMRC and they were desperately keen to keep people out of "self assessment" if at all possible. They much prefer to cover everything through PAYE because, of course, it loads all the administration onto an employer rather than HMRC having to do anything.
Du1point8 said:
got mine for 2009 that was a 'mistake' by previous employer not paying enough... So we worked it out and told them what we thought it should be given the circumstances and they send a letter back saying thank you very much and oh buy the way we want 10% more due to charges, blah blah blah.
Hate previous employers for doing this, but since I signed the compromise agreement and the fk was mine due to that not theirs.
Damn...
So due to a mess up in Taxing via old company I was PAYE at, I owe £1473, which not disputing, but then the cheeky fkers turned around and said:
28days late (from 2008) = 5% charge
6 months late (from 2008) = 5% charge
All interest from 2008 onwards
late payment admin Fee = £100
means I owe them £323 in fees for being asked 2+ months ago (2011 July) to make sure my accounts from 2008 are correct from before when I didnt have an accountant and knew nothing of HMRC at the time as I was a grunt for a company.
My advice is....Hate previous employers for doing this, but since I signed the compromise agreement and the f
k was mine due to that not theirs.Damn...
So due to a mess up in Taxing via old company I was PAYE at, I owe £1473, which not disputing, but then the cheeky f
kers turned around and said:28days late (from 2008) = 5% charge
6 months late (from 2008) = 5% charge
All interest from 2008 onwards
late payment admin Fee = £100
means I owe them £323 in fees for being asked 2+ months ago (2011 July) to make sure my accounts from 2008 are correct from before when I didnt have an accountant and knew nothing of HMRC at the time as I was a grunt for a company.
Edited by Du1point8 on Wednesday 19th October 16:58
Pay them the amount overdue and no more. The late fees etc should be deducted. I have had late fees from time to time and have always paid what is owed less late fees and they havent griped about it.
Of course i am self employed so may be a different situation but no harm in trying. If they want the late fees after you have paid the overdue taxes they will ask for them.
LukeSi said:
Eric Mc said:
What has age got to do with it?
I don't work, I'm in education.If you receive sufficient income at ANY age, you will be required to pay tax on that income. If you happen to pay too much tax - you will be entitled to get a tax refund.
There is no lower age exemption for paying tax in the UK.
Eric Mc said:
I say again, what's age got to do with it?
If you receive sufficient income at ANY age, you will be required to pay tax on that income. If you happen to pay too much tax - you will be entitled to get a tax refund.
There is no lower age exemption for paying tax in the UK.
I don't have a sufficient income. But its £1.62 not worth bothering about.If you receive sufficient income at ANY age, you will be required to pay tax on that income. If you happen to pay too much tax - you will be entitled to get a tax refund.
There is no lower age exemption for paying tax in the UK.
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