Why don't the travellers just buy a caravan site instead of

[johnfm]

greenbelt land....

Apart from the 50X different in land cost...

[0a]

Hmm there's a clue there somewhere....???

[Jasandjules]

Rhetorical question alert.....

[elster]

They do, and lots of them.

They probably own a majority of Park home sites for starters.

[andyroo]

anonymous said:

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Please tell me you're making that up...

[Eric Mc]

johnfm said:

greenbelt land....

Apart from the 50X different in land cost...

Beacuse they'd run into almost identical planing issues as they did at Dale Farm. Most caravan sites do not allow permanent residency.

Maybe the solution is to buy groups of caravan sites so they can -

a) travel between the sites when they want to - upholding their travelling culture

b) fulfill the legal requirement of not having to stay in one site on a permanent basis

Or are they just too argumentative and anti--establishment to consider this as an option

[elster]

anonymous said:

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You will find most travellers, are not like the 'chav' travellers you see robbing you and causing this fuss over dale farm.

[elster]

anonymous said:

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Absolutely, unfortunately the police do very little to stop this. They just move them on to stop causing problems in their area.

[Galileo]

anonymous said:

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I would love to meet a 'real' traveller. But unfortunately over the decades of running a retail business I have only ever met the ones that try to steel anything they can, and have cost me thousands of pounds. I particularly like the women who bring their kids in to the shop to teach them to steal. Heaven help you if you catch one at it, as you will have a shop full of very angry Irish accented travellers all threatening to burn the place down.
So please point out a proper traveller that earns an honest living and pays taxes as I would love to meet them.
I for one am loving watching them loose their possessions. What goes around, comes around.

[elster]

Galileo said:

anonymous said:

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I would love to meet a 'real' traveller. But unfortunately over the decades of running a retail business I have only ever met the ones that try to steel anything they can, and have cost me thousands of pounds. I particularly like the women who bring their kids in to the shop to teach them to steal. Heaven help you if you catch one at it, as you will have a shop full of very angry Irish accented travellers all threatening to burn the place down.
So please point out a proper traveller that earns an honest living and pays taxes as I would love to meet them.
I for one am loving watching them loose their possessions. What goes around, comes around.

How many would you like me to introduce to you? Most of the ones I know are in Cumbria and Scotland.

They own most of the caravan parks and Penrith.

[crankedup]

Mentioned earlier that I was having a drink and chat with Candy and her husband Andy, likeable people. Candy is the Vice President on the Gypsy Council and active in the community. Noticed that David Essex sat on the fence over the Dale Farm issue, knows where his bread is buttered. Makes me laugh when some here speak as though the 'true Gypsies' are a separate tribe to 'Travellers'somehow. Do you really believe that inter marriages have not occurred over the decades? Of course you can find 100% Gypsy blood, but its like black people marry white people, have kids and, well you get the idea.
Questions remain where the evicted people will settle next.

[elster]

crankedup said:

Mentioned earlier that I was having a drink and chat with Candy and her husband Andy, likeable people. Candy is the Vice President on the Gypsy Council and active in the community. Noticed that David Essex sat on the fence over the Dale Farm issue, knows where his bread is buttered. Makes me laugh when some here speak as though the 'true Gypsies' are a separate tribe to 'Travellers'somehow. Do you really believe that inter marriages have not occurred over the decades? Of course you can find 100% Gypsy blood, but its like black people marry white people, have kids and, well you get the idea.
Questions remain where the evicted people will settle next.

Not really most have moved on already.

[Ribol]

Does anyone KNOW how they go about registering their vehicles and insuring them - they have tax on them?

[elster]

Ribol said:

Does anyone KNOW how they go about registering their vehicles and insuring them - they have tax on them?

Yes they do, registered to a site.

[Oily Nails]

Ribol said:

Does anyone KNOW how they go about registering their vehicles and insuring them - they have tax on them?

[dickymint]

elster said:

Galileo said:

anonymous said:

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I would love to meet a 'real' traveller. But unfortunately over the decades of running a retail business I have only ever met the ones that try to steel anything they can, and have cost me thousands of pounds. I particularly like the women who bring their kids in to the shop to teach them to steal. Heaven help you if you catch one at it, as you will have a shop full of very angry Irish accented travellers all threatening to burn the place down.
So please point out a proper traveller that earns an honest living and pays taxes as I would love to meet them.
I for one am loving watching them loose their possessions. What goes around, comes around.

How many would you like me to introduce to you? Most of the ones I know are in Cumbria and Scotland.

They own most of the caravan parks and Penrith.

I too could introduce Galileo to many decent and honest Travellers from all over the Country.

Elster: I see from your profile you are involved with Pathfinder Homes. I have a similar background - My Father and Uncle founded Stately-Albion Always admired Pathfinders range at Earls Court, MECCMA etc.

[crankedup]

elster said:

Not really most have moved on already.

Yes indeed, but where is what I am asking?

[elster]

dickymint said:

elster said:

Galileo said:

anonymous said:

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I would love to meet a 'real' traveller. But unfortunately over the decades of running a retail business I have only ever met the ones that try to steel anything they can, and have cost me thousands of pounds. I particularly like the women who bring their kids in to the shop to teach them to steal. Heaven help you if you catch one at it, as you will have a shop full of very angry Irish accented travellers all threatening to burn the place down.
So please point out a proper traveller that earns an honest living and pays taxes as I would love to meet them.
I for one am loving watching them loose their possessions. What goes around, comes around.

How many would you like me to introduce to you? Most of the ones I know are in Cumbria and Scotland.

They own most of the caravan parks and Penrith.

I too could introduce Galileo to many decent and honest Travellers from all over the Country.

Elster: I see from your profile you are involved with Pathfinder Homes. I have a similar background - My Father and Uncle founded Stately-Albion Always admired Pathfinders range at Earls Court, MECCMA etc.

Should I take a guess you aren't David, but related.

[jdw1234]

elster said:

anonymous said:

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You will find most travellers, are not like the 'chav' travellers you see robbing you and causing this fuss over dale farm.

Most??

Really???

[Ribol]

Oily Nails said:

Ribol said:

Does anyone KNOW how they go about registering their vehicles and insuring them - they have tax on them?

The vehicles are taxed, fact, you cannot tax a vehicle without it being insured, fact, and you have to have an address to insure it from.

So would it be safe to assume you haven't got a clue but felt you should post something anyway