Brunstroms Scameras work better than the others.
Discussion
So There!........
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Brunstrom
vindicated? Jun 16 2004
By Carl Butler Daily Post
NORTH Wales speed cameras are saving more lives than anywhere else in Britain, independent research has concluded.
Chief constable Richard Brunstrom hailed it as "fabulous news," saying it vindicated the force's stance on the roadside cameras.
A UK government survey found in three years there had been a massive 68% drop in people killed or seriously injured on those North Wales roads covered by 37 speed cameras.
It puts North Wales top of the national league table compared with an average of a 40% reduction in the UK.
Critics last night dismissed the figures as nonsense, with one MP asking for a meeting with Mr Brunstrom to query the details.
In an 18 month period there was a reduction of 34 killed and seriously injured on the North Wales roads covered by static and mobile speed cameras.
The independent report for the government, carried out by University College London, claims speed cameras save 100 lives a year in Britain.
One of the most successful cameras is on the A541 Wrexham to Cefn y Bedd road, which for the three years before cameras claimed on average four dead or seriously injured a year.
After speed cameras were put in place, it fell to nil.
Mr Brunstrom welcomed the survey.
"Here in North Wales we have had the best figures in the country and we are very proud to have been part of that success."
But last night a North Wales MP joined other pressure groups in dismissing the figures as "nonsense". Clwyd South West MP Dr Martyn Jones said: "The police are deluding themselves and the public."
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Brunstrom
vindicated? Jun 16 2004 By Carl Butler Daily Post
NORTH Wales speed cameras are saving more lives than anywhere else in Britain, independent research has concluded.
Chief constable Richard Brunstrom
hailed it as "fabulous news," saying it vindicated the force's stance on the roadside cameras. A UK government survey found in three years there had been a massive 68% drop in people killed or seriously injured on those North Wales roads covered by 37 speed cameras.
It puts North Wales top of the national league table compared with an average of a 40% reduction in the UK.
Critics last night dismissed the figures as nonsense, with one MP asking for a meeting with Mr Brunstrom
to query the details. In an 18 month period there was a reduction of 34 killed and seriously injured on the North Wales roads covered by static and mobile speed cameras.
The independent report for the government, carried out by University College London, claims speed cameras save 100 lives a year in Britain.
One of the most successful cameras is on the A541 Wrexham to Cefn y Bedd road, which for the three years before cameras claimed on average four dead or seriously injured a year.
After speed cameras were put in place, it fell to nil.
Mr Brunstrom
welcomed the survey. "Here in North Wales we have had the best figures in the country and we are very proud to have been part of that success."
But last night a North Wales MP joined other pressure groups in dismissing the figures as "nonsense". Clwyd South West MP Dr Martyn Jones said: "The police are deluding themselves and the public."
cazzo said:
So There!........
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"Here in North Wales we have had the best figures in the country and we are very proud to have been part of that success."
But last night a North Wales MP joined other pressure groups in dismissing the figures as "nonsense". Clwyd South West MP Dr Martyn Jones said: "The police are deluding themselves and the public."
Hmm! Agree! Wonder what he has been taking?
Delusions? Hard drugs?
After all - he keeps saying "it is not very dangerous"
Then he claims "best figures in the country"
Ach! Hold on! Of course he has the BEST figures in the country!
The mostest speed tickets and fines overall over past three years ---- and wants to regain his top slot position from LanCASH£re and TVP!
Best safety records and least accidents - not according to my cousin who works in a hospital there! She says the A&E department in her hospital is not seeing such significant drop in incoming patients. A little factor which appears to be norm per another cousin who is A&E consultant in London area and husband's colleagues up here in the North West!
WildCat said:Ach! Ve need more sKameras Liebling! - Brumsturmfurher
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Best safety records and least accidents - not according to my cousin who works in a hospital there! She says the A&E department in her hospital is not seeing such significant drop in incoming patients. A little factor which appears to be norm per another cousin who is A&E consultant in London area and husband's colleagues up here in the North West!
In response to my request, I have an e-mail from HTV Wales who were given - by the police - the figures for the Welsh police force areas and the N.Wales section reads:
NORTH WALES POLICE
In 2003 there were 47 fatal collisions on the roads of North Wales and these resulted in a total of 50 fatalities.
In 2002 there were 41 fatal collisions on the roads of North Wales, resulting in 44 fatalities.
In 2001 there were 43 fatal collisions on the roads of North Wales, resulting in 47 fatalities.
End of quote........
So in 2003, N Wales deaths rose by 13.6%.
NORTH WALES POLICE
In 2003 there were 47 fatal collisions on the roads of North Wales and these resulted in a total of 50 fatalities.
In 2002 there were 41 fatal collisions on the roads of North Wales, resulting in 44 fatalities.
In 2001 there were 43 fatal collisions on the roads of North Wales, resulting in 47 fatalities.
End of quote........
So in 2003, N Wales deaths rose by 13.6%.
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