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Drove by a Lexus dealer last week and saw a 2007 997C2S up for sale - 2 previous owners, 32k, full OPC, the works. It looked like a good deal and I've been after a 997 for ages so couldn't resist.
It's recently had new brakes and tyres and it appeared tip top.
I picked it up yesterday however I've since noticed it's dropping a bit of oil but most crucially I think the engine's on the way out - there's definitely a change in the engine sound when cold (like a feint sowing machine noise), it's got a small vibration that shouldn't be there and it's got sooty exhaust tips.
I think I've got a lemon but the dealer says there's nothing wrong with it.
Where do I stand?
I bet the previous owner ragged it to death.
It's recently had new brakes and tyres and it appeared tip top.
I picked it up yesterday however I've since noticed it's dropping a bit of oil but most crucially I think the engine's on the way out - there's definitely a change in the engine sound when cold (like a feint sowing machine noise), it's got a small vibration that shouldn't be there and it's got sooty exhaust tips.
I think I've got a lemon but the dealer says there's nothing wrong with it.
Where do I stand?
I bet the previous owner ragged it to death.
sleep envy said:
Drove by a Lexus dealer last week and saw a 2007 997C2S up for sale - 2 previous owners, 32k, full OPC, the works. It looked like a good deal and I've been after a 997 for ages so couldn't resist.
It's recently had new brakes and tyres and it appeared tip top.
I picked it up yesterday however I've since noticed it's dropping a bit of oil but most crucially I think the engine's on the way out - there's definitely a change in the engine sound when cold (like a feint sowing machine noise), it's got a small vibration that shouldn't be there and it's got sooty exhaust tips.
I think I've got a lemon but the dealer says there's nothing wrong with it.
Where do I stand?
I bet the previous owner ragged it to death.
It's recently had new brakes and tyres and it appeared tip top.
I picked it up yesterday however I've since noticed it's dropping a bit of oil but most crucially I think the engine's on the way out - there's definitely a change in the engine sound when cold (like a feint sowing machine noise), it's got a small vibration that shouldn't be there and it's got sooty exhaust tips.
I think I've got a lemon but the dealer says there's nothing wrong with it.
Where do I stand?
I bet the previous owner ragged it to death.
sleep envy said:
Drove by a Lexus dealer last week and saw a 2007 997C2S up for sale - 2 previous owners, 32k, full OPC, the works. It looked like a good deal and I've been after a 997 for ages so couldn't resist.
It's recently had new brakes and tyres and it appeared tip top.
I picked it up yesterday however I've since noticed it's dropping a bit of oil but most crucially I think the engine's on the way out - there's definitely a change in the engine sound when cold (like a feint sowing machine noise), it's got a small vibration that shouldn't be there and it's got sooty exhaust tips.
I think I've got a lemon but the dealer says there's nothing wrong with it.
Where do I stand?
I bet the previous owner ragged it to death.
Post his address on Icantstandtherealworldfacebook and there should be an angry mob decending on the previous owners house within the hour It's recently had new brakes and tyres and it appeared tip top.
I picked it up yesterday however I've since noticed it's dropping a bit of oil but most crucially I think the engine's on the way out - there's definitely a change in the engine sound when cold (like a feint sowing machine noise), it's got a small vibration that shouldn't be there and it's got sooty exhaust tips.
I think I've got a lemon but the dealer says there's nothing wrong with it.
Where do I stand?
I bet the previous owner ragged it to death.
Take it to an OPC or good independent and have it checked out.
If you only picked it up yesterday and there's something major wrong with it, you should be able to get the dealer to stump up the cash to get the work done, or possibly reject it and demand a refund.
http://www.whatcar.com/images/subscription/HELP.pd...
If you only picked it up yesterday and there's something major wrong with it, you should be able to get the dealer to stump up the cash to get the work done, or possibly reject it and demand a refund.
http://www.whatcar.com/images/subscription/HELP.pd...
OP you need to get some scientists to drill holes in the engine and put cameras in.
They'll then tell you about 'scoring' and an iphone app will give a print out of 'ignitions' and 'over revs'.
And then what you do is write 12 letters to Porsche GMB UK USA LTD telling them they have made you clinically depressed.
or something.
They'll then tell you about 'scoring' and an iphone app will give a print out of 'ignitions' and 'over revs'.
And then what you do is write 12 letters to Porsche GMB UK USA LTD telling them they have made you clinically depressed.
or something.
tomw2000 said:
OP you need to get some scientists to drill holes in the engine and put cameras in.
They'll then tell you about 'scoring' and an iphone app will give a print out of 'ignitions' and 'over revs'.
my neighbour is a dentist - he's got some pretty fine drillsThey'll then tell you about 'scoring' and an iphone app will give a print out of 'ignitions' and 'over revs'.
is there anywhere specific that I need to make a hole in or is anywhere good enough?
do you have a link for the android version of that app?
Whatever you do, don't race away from the lights at maximum RPM and then slow down, apparently this particular model wasn't designed to do that 
If the noise gets any worse in the next two minutes of driving, I'd find a Lexus dealer at least a couple of hundred miles from your home postcode and trade it in there, apparently they'll buy any old poorly engineered rubbish these days . . . . . .
If the noise gets any worse in the next two minutes of driving, I'd find a Lexus dealer at least a couple of hundred miles from your home postcode and trade it in there, apparently they'll buy any old poorly engineered rubbish these days . . . . . .
ked!sleep envy said:
Drove by a Lexus dealer last week and saw a 2007 997C2S up for sale - 2 previous owners, 32k, full OPC, the works. It looked like a good deal and I've been after a 997 for ages so couldn't resist.
It's recently had new brakes and tyres and it appeared tip top.
I picked it up yesterday however I've since noticed it's dropping a bit of oil but most crucially I think the engine's on the way out - there's definitely a change in the engine sound when cold (like a feint sowing machine noise), it's got a small vibration that shouldn't be there and it's got sooty exhaust tips.
I think I've got a lemon but the dealer says there's nothing wrong with it.
Where do I stand?
I bet the previous owner ragged it to death.
You are bad!It's recently had new brakes and tyres and it appeared tip top.
I picked it up yesterday however I've since noticed it's dropping a bit of oil but most crucially I think the engine's on the way out - there's definitely a change in the engine sound when cold (like a feint sowing machine noise), it's got a small vibration that shouldn't be there and it's got sooty exhaust tips.
I think I've got a lemon but the dealer says there's nothing wrong with it.
Where do I stand?
I bet the previous owner ragged it to death.
Sincerely,
Rockster.
Hate to be the potential bearer of bad news, but does this your sound like your car?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
If so, I'd suggest you get back to dealer ASAP, as they will have a responsibility to sell something that is 'fit for purpose', and have the responsibility to check out any trade-ins before purchasing, since they did'nt any liability could sit with them.
If you can, act quickly, and get the car back to dealers and check out your legal rights.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
If so, I'd suggest you get back to dealer ASAP, as they will have a responsibility to sell something that is 'fit for purpose', and have the responsibility to check out any trade-ins before purchasing, since they did'nt any liability could sit with them.
If you can, act quickly, and get the car back to dealers and check out your legal rights.
elliot_holder said:
Hate to be the potential bearer of bad news, but does this your sound like your car?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
If so, I'd suggest you get back to dealer ASAP, as they will have a responsibility to sell something that is 'fit for purpose', and have the responsibility to check out any trade-ins before purchasing, since they did'nt any liability could sit with them.
If you can, act quickly, and get the car back to dealers and check out your legal rights.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
If so, I'd suggest you get back to dealer ASAP, as they will have a responsibility to sell something that is 'fit for purpose', and have the responsibility to check out any trade-ins before purchasing, since they did'nt any liability could sit with them.
If you can, act quickly, and get the car back to dealers and check out your legal rights.
elliot_holder said:
Hate to be the potential bearer of bad news, but does this your sound like your car?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
If so, I'd suggest you get back to dealer ASAP, as they will have a responsibility to sell something that is 'fit for purpose', and have the responsibility to check out any trade-ins before purchasing, since they did'nt any liability could sit with them.
If you can, act quickly, and get the car back to dealers and check out your legal rights.
Fella, you need to read the above again!!!http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
If so, I'd suggest you get back to dealer ASAP, as they will have a responsibility to sell something that is 'fit for purpose', and have the responsibility to check out any trade-ins before purchasing, since they did'nt any liability could sit with them.
If you can, act quickly, and get the car back to dealers and check out your legal rights.
MTR
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