Pads - um, have I missed something in the market place?

[cirks]

All,
the 450 has been running with Red Dot front pads for a few years now (not the same set!). However, I've now run out of spares and trying to find the current ones online seems to make me think that Red Dot either don't exist any longer and I've missed something in the market news etc or I'm just being useless!

The current pads are, according to the code on the back of them XF 9003 (XF being the fast road / light competition range).

Any ideas?

[cirks]

B-Reight said:

which has the princess 4 pot caliper setup.

Problem is that mind doesn't! It's running upgraded Hi-Spec

[cirks]

If I could find what the Red Dot 9003 was equivalent too, I could tell you that!
I haven't managed to find a listing for the pad to be able to find whether it's a standard shape pad or not. If all else fails, it will be a call to Hi-Spec but I'll have to check the caliper model first.

[pjtvr390se]

Google is your friend

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/ma...

[cirks]

pjtvr390se said:

Google is your friend
http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/ma...

Thanks but where on there are there Red Dot pads? Only disks seem to be shown for Red Dot.

[350zwelgje]

Perhaps this can be of help in addition:
Have hispec 4-pot on 300mm at the front. Pads are equal to volvo 240 shape. To be sure compare your pads to these volvo pads and if ok, easy to find/order in the future.

Rob

[cirks]

350zwelgje said:

Pads are equal to volvo 240 shape.Rob

Thanks Rob. I'm also running 300mm so you could well be right. I'll check against the Volvo's.

[cirks]

now even more confused. I've had a wheel off and the calipers say they're "Billet 4" - however, checking Hi-Spec's website, the pads for the Billet 4 are nothing like those I have! They're much more like the ones shown for the Monster 4

[KelWedge]

After 2 failed attempts to match the pads on my wedge a few years ago, I traced the outline of the old ones and detailed as much as I could and faxed them to EBC, problem solved. (Did ring them first)

May work may not

[350zwelgje]

cirks said:

now even more confused. I've had a wheel off and the calipers say they're "Billet 4" - however, checking Hi-Spec's website, the pads for the Billet 4 are nothing like those I have! They're much more like the ones shown for the Monster 4

Billet 4 here, with those volvo pads. But there are two 'versions' out there it seems. Mine is the 'old' version, could be you have the new modern one. Thought the pads are the same, just the caliper. Hispec should be able to help, but different experiences of their customer service when you read posts discussing them ....

Rob

[cirks]

Spoke to HiSpec today. Quite helpful. Supposedly all of their old calipers were marked as Billet 4 (due to being billet aluminium and 4 piston) but as they said, it got a bit confusing when they started doing lots of different patterns. So, mine almost certainly are Monster 4 which should have same pads as the Cerbera. I'll pop to motor factors and try to match them that way.

[cirks]

Also spoke to RedDot today who confirmed that they've discontinued the XF9003

So, I now have the choice to go with :
Ferodo DS2500 (FRP216H) - £120ish
Mintex 1155 (MDB1292) - £95ish
Pagid RS4 Blue (E1361) - £175ish <cough splutter>

Thoughts? The Pagid are too expensive so it really comes down to between the Ferodo and Mintex. Any opinions based on track use?

[350zwelgje]

Used mintex and ebc green on trackdays, both ok for me.
No experience with that ferodo type, but seems ok as well from reading on here.

Rob

[Wedg1e]

cirks said:

Supposedly all of their old calipers were marked as Billet 4 (due to being billet aluminium and 4 piston)

Always makes me and at the same time, the term 'billet aluminium'... as though it's some kind of magic metal. It's not, it just means that a CNC machine turned a chunk of cast alloy into a part, as opposed to the molten alloy being poured into a mould to make the same part.
Same as the use of 'CNC machined' to imply some wondrous doings in the factory. Men were making parts with the same accuracy as CNC machines decades before they were invented, so what you're paying for is the few seconds it takes a machine to make the part instead of several hours for a real human being to do it. Whoopee-doo.

[TVR_owner]

cirks said:

Also spoke to RedDot today who confirmed that they've discontinued the XF9003

So, I now have the choice to go with :
Ferodo DS2500 (FRP216H) - £120ish
Mintex 1155 (MDB1292) - £95ish
Pagid RS4 Blue (E1361) - £175ish <cough splutter>

Thoughts? The Pagid are too expensive so it really comes down to between the Ferodo and Mintex. Any opinions based on track use?

Try Mintex F4R? For quick track stuff I suspect 1155 will let you down. 1166 is a better pad and still has good grip and feel from cold.

[cirks]

Wedg1e said:

as though it's some kind of magic metal. It's not,

well....I don't care. My calipers are made out of monsters

[Brummmie]

Does anyone have a picture?

My website is here, perhaps i can help?

http://www.clbraking.co.uk/padimage.html

[cirks]

Paul,
I'd guess it's the 5004W50T17 you list for 6pot Hi-Spec as the Monster 4 pot and Monster 6 pot have the same pads. The equivalent in Mintex and Ferodo are listed below anyway so if you can confirm the 5004 pad is your equivalent, I can add it to my list of options.
Cheers

[cirks]

TVR_owner said:

Try Mintex F4R? For quick track stuff I suspect 1155 will let you down. 1166 is a better pad and still has good grip and feel from cold.

Hi John. Aren't the F4R and 1166 meant for track use only? I do need pads which are ok for road use too from cold.

[Brummmie]

cirks said:

Paul,
I'd guess it's the 5004W50T17 you list for 6pot Hi-Spec as the Monster 4 pot and Monster 6 pot have the same pads. The equivalent in Mintex and Ferodo are listed below anyway so if you can confirm the 5004 pad is your equivalent, I can add it to my list of options.
Cheers

FRP216 is 5004w50t17, in stock in RC5 and RC6.
I run this pad in my Cerbera in RC5+ and its pretty handy!