Tempted by OPC Targa 4 2010 - Good idea??

[jackliebling]

Dear All,

I am experiencing very troubling thoughts of swapping my 2009 Cayman 2.9 for a blue 2010 Targa 4 at Porsche West London.

I am worried that with the new 911 model coming soon, it's value is going to plummet come trade in... On the other hand, it is £10k less than some other similar cars in the network.

My wife is totally in love with it too.

here is a link to the car

Please help...
Jack

[khushy]

Make your own decision - life is short - WGAT what anyone here thinks FGS?

Khushy

[GT3ZZZ]

Nice car! A big step up from the Cayman S so do it and SWMBO onside as well!

[jackliebling]

Thanks khushy, very constructive. We are not in a playground.

Anyone else?

[mollytherocker]

jackliebling said:

Dear All,

I am experiencing very troubling thoughts of swapping my 2009 Cayman 2.9 for a blue 2010 Targa 4 at Porsche West London.

I am worried that with the new 911 model coming soon, it's value is going to plummet come trade in... On the other hand, it is £10k less than some other similar cars in the network.

My wife is totally in love with it too.

here is a link to the car

Please help...
Jack

I suppose it depends on your definition of 'plummet'? Yes, its going to depreciate at a fair rate but what is acceptable to you is your choice.

For example, in 3 years you might get 25k trade in? Obviously this depends on many things not least the loading on the car you are trading in against but it probably wont be miles out.

MTR

[SonnyM]

991 Targa specced up could be almost twice the price... that's if they make one!

For me it would be missing Sports seats and PSE. Also I've heard the wind buffeting with roof down is not good so best to try it on an extended test drive to make sure you are happy with that. Either way the glass roof sure beats the Caymans!

Beautiful colour - but make sure you get them down on price as Targa's have never been that popular, so it may be harder to sell on regardless of 991 version.

[Barry Ashcroft]

Looks nice I'd go for it you only get one shot at life so enjoy it.
I don't buy and worry about future values what will be will be.
Good luck

[mollytherocker]

Barry Ashcroft said:

Looks nice I'd go for it you only get one shot at life so enjoy it.
I don't buy and worry about future values what will be will be.
Good luck

I agree mostly with your sentiment but isnt it reckless?

MTR

[nsm3]

Try to get £5k knocked off it first - I think the OPC's aren't shifting second hand cars so well at the moment (just what I was told)?

[Scelto]

jackliebling said:

Dear All,

I am experiencing very troubling thoughts of swapping my 2009 Cayman 2.9 for a blue 2010 Targa 4 at Porsche West London.

I am worried that with the new 911 model coming soon, it's value is going to plummet come trade in... On the other hand, it is £10k less than some other similar cars in the network.

My wife is totally in love with it too.

here is a link to the car

Please help...
Jack

You love it. Your wife loves it. It's priced well in comparison to other cars in the network. Your only concern is the depreciation.

Which means the real question is - how long are you planning to keep it? If it's a proper keeper then depreciation is a non-issue.

If it's just a stepping stone into something else (turbo, 991, whatever) then the only question is whether you can afford the depreciation.

In either case this is about your finances and tolerance for total cost of owership than about the car.

Personally, I don't lose any sleep over that sort of thing. I know that by buying a high value car I'm going to lose a fortune, but I rationalise that by looking at the pleasure I get from driving the car.

That's only going to be a reckless approach if you're having to make unreasonable sacrifices (like not paying the mortgage...) to afford it

[sajafzal]

Scelto said:

You love it. Your wife loves it. It's priced well in comparison to other cars in the network. Your only concern is the depreciation.

Which means the real question is - how long are you planning to keep it? If it's a proper keeper then depreciation is a non-issue.

If it's just a stepping stone into something else (turbo, 991, whatever) then the only question is whether you can afford the depreciation.

In either case this is about your finances and tolerance for total cost of owership than about the car.

Personally, I don't lose any sleep over that sort of thing. I know that by buying a high value car I'm going to lose a fortune, but I rationalise that by looking at the pleasure I get from driving the car.

That's only going to be a reckless approach if you're having to make unreasonable sacrifices (like not paying the mortgage...) to afford it

Scelto, sums it up

I hear a lot of people talking endlessly about depreciation, and as has been pointed out if you can take that hit, do it.

I loose a fair bit from my cars, but the way I see it as long as I have had the pleasure from the time I have owned the said vehicle.

For example many years ago I bought a STi and spent a fortune on it, and then sold it, loosing a fair bit, but I did not care as when I did use it, it made me smile

Then bought a Mercedes C32, I lost a lot of money and did not enjoy the experience that hurt, but that the only car I have ever regretted ever owning.

Currently in a X5 (2nd) bought brand new 4 and a half years ago will be replacing with a Cayenne, will probably loose circa 30K on the BMW but I have enjoyed owning, using, driving it and nothings free.

What you have chosen looks a good car to me, and if your heart is saying get it, just make sure your brain is giving some signals too, get it, use it, enjoy it, worry about all other things later

Hope this helps

Saj

[betternotbigger]

At an asking price of 55k after only 2 years (down from nearly 90k) looks like it's done a lot of its depreciating already. If you like it and can afford it, buy it.

[khushy]

jackliebling said:

Thanks khushy, very constructive. We are not in a playground.

Anyone else?

you asked for opinions - I gave you mine - whats the problem?

[khushy]

betternotbigger said:

At an asking price of 55k after only 2 years (down from nearly 90k) looks like it's done a lot of its depreciating already. If you like it and can afford it, buy it.

in another 2 years it will be worth about £20k - £25k max - old model - not an S - Targa etc etc!

as for "done a lot of its depreciating already" dont believe the hype . . . . ALL car values = plummet off of a cliff!

[PGN 500sl]

jackliebling said:

Dear All,

I am experiencing very troubling thoughts of swapping my 2009 Cayman 2.9 for a blue 2010 Targa 4 at Porsche West London.

I am worried that with the new 911 model coming soon, it's value is going to plummet come trade in... On the other hand, it is £10k less than some other similar cars in the network.

My wife is totally in love with it too.

here is a link to the car

Please help...
Jack

Jack, the car looks terrific. Perhaps try and get the OPC to stick on PSE as part of the negotiations?

[pete.g]

GT3ZZZ said:

Nice car! A big step up from the Cayman S so do it and SWMBO onside as well!

The OP is in a 2.9?

I would regard the only 'step up' from a Cayman S to a Targa as being in price. I drove them back to back and the Targa was like a boat compared to the cheaper car.

It depends on what you want the car for, of course, but I would consider the Targa as one of the least sporting versions of the 911.

[SFO]

Targa is quite heavy .. and the non S version may not be responsive enough.

The buffeting with the roof open becomes very unpleasant at about 55mph.

[Actus Reus]

Have a Cayman S myself, and don't think the step up to a Carrera (or the other 3.6 options) is that great, if at all. Tested a few 06 997S and preferred a newer, cheaper, Cayman S. That said, if the glass roof holds an appeal, there's not much else like it on the market fullstop, let alone in this segment. Good spec too, if a little too 'comfortable' for my taste. Oh, and I don't like that grey leather at all.

Have you driven a Cayman S? Or even an R for that money? Personally I'd now be waiting until next spring to buy a 997 used as the 991's arrival would make me a little nervous and the season is all but over.

Each to their own mind you - 'tis a lovely colour and when it comes to buying Porsches, if the missus is on side, it may be worth striking whilst the iron is hot...

EFA

Edited by Actus Reus on Monday 24th October 12:03

[Carl_Docklands]

I am a big Targa fan.

This car will feel like a piece of wood next to a Cayman on the twisties so, an extended test drive is a must to make sure you get on with it.

Random thoughts:

- Wrong interior colour
- Manual, probably not the best box for resale in this model ?
- Probably would need to shed another £10k to make it a really good deal
- 18inch wheels (could keep them and stick winter tyres on)
- No sports 'zaust.

It does have PASM though.

Would i swap it for a Cayman? not unless I needed the extra seats, it won't be a better drive. I would buy a Targa as a second car but the spec would have to be better than this one. The non-OPC one in Guards Red looks a much better proposition to me (based on spec).

[SFO]

Carl_Docklands said:

- 18inch wheels (could keep them and stick winter tyres on)

they are 19" Carrera S wheels