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An uninteresting what car, so sorry:
£4k budget.
I do around 8500 miles per annum.
Must be petrol.
Must have FOUR proper seats.
Must be reliable (being easy/cheap to fix != reliable)
Must not be too 'showy'. That said I'm not afraid of something that's uncommon, it just must not be in your face or outlandish.
Reasonable on insurance for someone who is 20 (I've just come off a company car scheme which I've had since I was 17, so I don't have no claims, I am however on good terms with the broker that the aforementioned company used).
I would like to see 40 MPG on a motorway run, considering the car is likely to be sub 150 bhp, a car with a 6th gear might be necessary I guess, as most engines in this bracket run very short gearing, especially for 70 (+/- 10%) leptons.
I'm coming from a 1.6 petrol A3. It was a reasonable car with good fittings and a decent ride, it was very VERY boring to drive though and getting 33-35mpg out of a 100bhp engine was quite soul-sucking.
Volvo S40 1.6 http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3273821.htm
Honda Accord 2.0 http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3205154.htm
Octavia VRs http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3279694.htm Pushing the boat out on this one, but I would take the hit in economy for the performance gain. I have no idea how well it would go down with insurance though. I saw it as a grown up choice but and they're popular on PH but I hear they're well known for being driven by the wrong 'type' of driver?
Really struggling to come up with anything that sets me alight here, though that's obviously a direct result of the stringency of my request. It can be a hatchback but must NOT be bigger than a standard saloon, no bigger than the Accord, preferable smaller.
£4k budget.
I do around 8500 miles per annum.
Must be petrol.
Must have FOUR proper seats.
Must be reliable (being easy/cheap to fix != reliable)
Must not be too 'showy'. That said I'm not afraid of something that's uncommon, it just must not be in your face or outlandish.
Reasonable on insurance for someone who is 20 (I've just come off a company car scheme which I've had since I was 17, so I don't have no claims, I am however on good terms with the broker that the aforementioned company used).
I would like to see 40 MPG on a motorway run, considering the car is likely to be sub 150 bhp, a car with a 6th gear might be necessary I guess, as most engines in this bracket run very short gearing, especially for 70 (+/- 10%) leptons.
I'm coming from a 1.6 petrol A3. It was a reasonable car with good fittings and a decent ride, it was very VERY boring to drive though and getting 33-35mpg out of a 100bhp engine was quite soul-sucking.
Volvo S40 1.6 http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3273821.htm
Honda Accord 2.0 http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3205154.htm
Octavia VRs http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3279694.htm Pushing the boat out on this one, but I would take the hit in economy for the performance gain. I have no idea how well it would go down with insurance though. I saw it as a grown up choice but and they're popular on PH but I hear they're well known for being driven by the wrong 'type' of driver?
Really struggling to come up with anything that sets me alight here, though that's obviously a direct result of the stringency of my request. It can be a hatchback but must NOT be bigger than a standard saloon, no bigger than the Accord, preferable smaller.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
4 seats, newish so should be reliable, under £4k, 40mpg, 6 gears, petrol, not showy, low insurance group, smaller than an accord.
Can't think of any boxes that doesn't tick and it is a hoot to pedal that will feel like a racer after a 1.6 A3.
4 seats, newish so should be reliable, under £4k, 40mpg, 6 gears, petrol, not showy, low insurance group, smaller than an accord.
Can't think of any boxes that doesn't tick and it is a hoot to pedal that will feel like a racer after a 1.6 A3.
I don't understand when buying a car like that you don't go for a diesel. Buying a dull petrol car makes zero sense to me - I've been there and done that with a VW Passat, biggest mistake I ever made and constantly regretted not buying the equivalent diesel, which was better performing, cheaper to insure and cheaper to run.
Anyway out of your list I'd go for the Octy VRS anyday. I've driven a couple and it was a fun car to drive, nice all rounder.
If it was me in that situation I would not look past something with 4 doors and a VAG 1.9 TDi PD130 engine. VW Bora, Seat Leon, even an A4 or Passat.
Anyway out of your list I'd go for the Octy VRS anyday. I've driven a couple and it was a fun car to drive, nice all rounder.
If it was me in that situation I would not look past something with 4 doors and a VAG 1.9 TDi PD130 engine. VW Bora, Seat Leon, even an A4 or Passat.
Panda winning by a mile at the moment. If it is as good to drive as claimed, will be a no-brainer.
The reasons I strayed away from diesels was that, firstly, I cannot STAND the sound of a 4 cylinder diesel, petrol 4 pot is neutral, small diesels irritate me. Secondly, most of the cars I was looking at were knocking on a bit and diesel variants tend to have turbos which is just another thing to go wrong. Thirdly, with so many people looking to cut back, diesels are propped up in price, therefore I'd probably get an older, more ill-equiped diesel version than I would of the equivalent petrol.
The reasons I strayed away from diesels was that, firstly, I cannot STAND the sound of a 4 cylinder diesel, petrol 4 pot is neutral, small diesels irritate me. Secondly, most of the cars I was looking at were knocking on a bit and diesel variants tend to have turbos which is just another thing to go wrong. Thirdly, with so many people looking to cut back, diesels are propped up in price, therefore I'd probably get an older, more ill-equiped diesel version than I would of the equivalent petrol.
Chrisw666 said:
For 8500 miles a year you would buy a past its best rattly diesel over anything with a nice smooth petrol engine?
For 8.5k a year I would buy none of the above. Rusty nails in my eyelids would be a preferred choice.In answer to the petrol v diesel argument, when buying automotive white goods like mentioned in the OP, diesel all the way for me. Personal preference of course.
Truly tragic what car thread though. 20 and seriously considering buying a 1.6 Volvo S40.
"Really struggling to come up with anything that sets me alight here"
The only thing that should be alight is all three of your suggested cars it's a shame that the hillman was suggested before I had the chance to tell u about the vandan plus montego .
Four grand budget then 150 bhp then we add twenty yrs old no insurance discount into the mix
Six gears and petrol but not flash
Cheap to run what like a Honda or a volvo
What colour did you want. Lol
The only thing that should be alight is all three of your suggested cars it's a shame that the hillman was suggested before I had the chance to tell u about the vandan plus montego .
Four grand budget then 150 bhp then we add twenty yrs old no insurance discount into the mix
Six gears and petrol but not flash
Cheap to run what like a Honda or a volvo
What colour did you want. Lol
Not exciting but fits your requirements and would go on forever
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3259766.htm
Edit: you could also look at a mazda 6.
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3279779.htm
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3259766.htm
Edit: you could also look at a mazda 6.
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3279779.htm
Edited by neil_bmw on Monday 24th October 08:26
Complex said:
Reasonable on insurance for someone who is 20 (I've just come off a company car scheme which I've had since I was 17, so I don't have no claims, I am however on good terms with the broker that the aforementioned company used).
Slightly OT, but is the broker not able to mirror your company no claims with a letter from your fleet manager? I know the one I used managed that (albeit a good few years back) when in a similar situation.I will never understand why petrolheads don't look at the lpg alternative? I have run lpg v8s since the 90s at cheaper than diesel costs but with petrol performance. anyway this will return 52mpg cost equivalent on their numbers
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-Seat-Leon-1-6-16v-L...
or do as I do and buy a whacking great 300hp v8 barge and run at the equivalent of 35mpg
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-Seat-Leon-1-6-16v-L...
or do as I do and buy a whacking great 300hp v8 barge and run at the equivalent of 35mpg
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