University Applications down - excellent
Discussion
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-15430180
The BBC article typically wrings its hands and points the figure at Government policy and the introduction of fees.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityedu...
Telegraph article however delves further into the figures and finds, quel surprise, that the main driver for the statistical drop is flimflam subjects such as Communications and Media Studies are down by 40% at 'new universities' as students seek 'value for their fees'.
Jobs' a good 'un. Next!
The BBC article typically wrings its hands and points the figure at Government policy and the introduction of fees.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityedu...
Telegraph article however delves further into the figures and finds, quel surprise, that the main driver for the statistical drop is flimflam subjects such as Communications and Media Studies are down by 40% at 'new universities' as students seek 'value for their fees'.
Jobs' a good 'un. Next!
hornetrider said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-15430180
The BBC article typically wrings its hands and points the figure at Government policy and the introduction of fees.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityedu...
Telegraph article however delves further into the figures and finds, quel surprise, that the main driver for the statistical drop is flimflam subjects such as Communications and Media Studies are down by 40% at 'new universities' as students seek 'value for their fees'.
Jobs' a good 'un. Next!
So let's get this right, 60% of the drop is for 'real' degree courses. That, I would suggest, is dreadful news. If students are seeking 'value', i.e. a decent wage, then that lets out STEM courses.The BBC article typically wrings its hands and points the figure at Government policy and the introduction of fees.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityedu...
Telegraph article however delves further into the figures and finds, quel surprise, that the main driver for the statistical drop is flimflam subjects such as Communications and Media Studies are down by 40% at 'new universities' as students seek 'value for their fees'.
Jobs' a good 'un. Next!
Derek Smith said:
So let's get this right, 60% of the drop is for 'real' degree courses.
No Derek. Overall drop is 9%, and mickey mouse courses are down by 40% which is dragging the overall figure down. More traditional 'real' courses as you put it are down by 0.8% - 3% depending on the course.Statistics, eh?
Cause & effect neglected for the sake of a 'story'.
-Fees went up massively this year.
-Last year, only few students took gap years, realising that if they did, they'd have to pay 3X fees compared to just applying last year.
-Given lots of students brought forward going to uni last year, is it any wonder there is a small drop in numbers this year?
So again, why is this a story? Why on earth does no one report the real issue for this 'blip' - it will have averaged out in a couple of years, I'm sure.
Cause & effect neglected for the sake of a 'story'.
-Fees went up massively this year.
-Last year, only few students took gap years, realising that if they did, they'd have to pay 3X fees compared to just applying last year.
-Given lots of students brought forward going to uni last year, is it any wonder there is a small drop in numbers this year?
So again, why is this a story? Why on earth does no one report the real issue for this 'blip' - it will have averaged out in a couple of years, I'm sure.
Happy82 said:
I thought that our poor persecuted students didn't have to pay anything until the course was completed and they were earning £20k+? So what's reducing the applications?
Stupidity, they and their moronic parents are too thick to understand how the repayment process works.Cyder said:
Happy82 said:
I thought that our poor persecuted students didn't have to pay anything until the course was completed and they were earning £20k+? So what's reducing the applications?
Stupidity, they and their moronic parents are too thick to understand how the repayment process works.thinfourth2 said:
Fittster said:
The arts don't make money for the country?
Art colleges don't make artists 
+1
hornetrider said:
No Derek. Overall drop is 9%, and mickey mouse courses are down by 40% which is dragging the overall figure down. More traditional 'real' courses as you put it are down by 0.8% - 3% depending on the course.
A good result then, and the fall in 'proper' degree courses could be as a result of the rush last year to beat the new tutition fees.The sooner these students realise that dossing around for three years while studying a mickey mouse subject is not a basic human right the better.
Yep, New Labour sold kids a lie (one of many) - everyone can be educationally elite and have a multi-million pound career.
University has never been more accessible to all - still.
A few people may be too thick to work out that the fees/loans arrangement is a risk free gamble, if you don't reap the success, you don't repay, so a tiny mirority might be put off by the panic stories from people with a political agenda.
But basically some people have woken up to the fact that a worthless degree is worthless, and that there are still other more appropriate routes into the work place.
University has never been more accessible to all - still.
A few people may be too thick to work out that the fees/loans arrangement is a risk free gamble, if you don't reap the success, you don't repay, so a tiny mirority might be put off by the panic stories from people with a political agenda.
But basically some people have woken up to the fact that a worthless degree is worthless, and that there are still other more appropriate routes into the work place.
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