Can council tenants legally own property?
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Here's a question I would like those in the know to answer if they can...
My dad owns his own property.
He wants to leave it between me and my brother in his will.
As a council tenant,I am worried that this could cause me problems as I am pretty sure you cannot own property as a tenant.. Or would that not concern me as I wouldn't own all of it??
Any ideas??
My dad owns his own property.
He wants to leave it between me and my brother in his will.
As a council tenant,I am worried that this could cause me problems as I am pretty sure you cannot own property as a tenant.. Or would that not concern me as I wouldn't own all of it??
Any ideas??
Presumably, what you're really saying is that when you inherit part of a property, you'll be able to return the council property to the council to house a more needy tenant, and use either the property, any sale proceeds, or rental income to fund your own accommodation...
Anything else might sound like you're considering adding yourself to the legions of people who have the means to house themselves but prefer to live at the expense of the rest of us!
Anything else might sound like you're considering adding yourself to the legions of people who have the means to house themselves but prefer to live at the expense of the rest of us!
sideways sid said:
Presumably, what you're really saying is that when you inherit part of a property, you'll be able to return the council property to the council to house a more needy tenant, and use either the property, any sale proceeds, or rental income to fund your own accommodation...
Anything else might sound like you're considering adding yourself to the legions of people who have the means to house themselves but prefer to live at the expense of the rest of us!
Anything else might sound like you're considering adding yourself to the legions of people who have the means to house themselves but prefer to live at the expense of the rest of us!
onesickpuppy said:
sideways sid said:
Presumably, what you're really saying is that when you inherit part of a property, you'll be able to return the council property to the council to house a more needy tenant, and use either the property, any sale proceeds, or rental income to fund your own accommodation...
Anything else might sound like you're considering adding yourself to the legions of people who have the means to house themselves but prefer to live at the expense of the rest of us!
Anything else might sound like you're considering adding yourself to the legions of people who have the means to house themselves but prefer to live at the expense of the rest of us!
I'm not looking to have anything I am not entitled to, I earn a very low wage and am exactly the 'kind' of person who needs council accomodation.
Believe me, I don't live here because I want to. I would happily move to a nicer area given the chance.
The property in question is a 1 bed flat, which I would only inherit 50% of - so this would not be suitable for me, my missus and our son.
I couldn't ever live in it, so I would probably end up selling my half to my brother who could use it for himself.
My question was - As a council tenant, can I inherit this property without putting my tenancy into difficulty?
I don't appreciate people who know nothing about my situation to make crass comments on what I thought was a fairly knowledgable and sensible forum, I was purely after legal advice from people that might know.
Believe me, I don't live here because I want to. I would happily move to a nicer area given the chance.
The property in question is a 1 bed flat, which I would only inherit 50% of - so this would not be suitable for me, my missus and our son.
I couldn't ever live in it, so I would probably end up selling my half to my brother who could use it for himself.
My question was - As a council tenant, can I inherit this property without putting my tenancy into difficulty?
I don't appreciate people who know nothing about my situation to make crass comments on what I thought was a fairly knowledgable and sensible forum, I was purely after legal advice from people that might know.
I'm pretty sure it has no effect if you both sold it or your brother bought you out, just like perhaps getting a lottery windfall etc or someone young getting a council flat and then going on to a good career. Obviously as you say if this is big enough most will ultimately buy a privately owned home.
In fact as some tenants still have the right to buy their council home and exercise this then it seems impossible they would be penalised for a windfall/savings/inheritance they need to have amassed to allow them to buy.
In fact as some tenants still have the right to buy their council home and exercise this then it seems impossible they would be penalised for a windfall/savings/inheritance they need to have amassed to allow them to buy.
king_of_herts said:
I'm not looking to have anything I am not entitled to, I earn a very low wage and am exactly the 'kind' of person who needs council accomodation.
Believe me, I don't live here because I want to. I would happily move to a nicer area given the chance.
The property in question is a 1 bed flat, which I would only inherit 50% of - so this would not be suitable for me, my missus and our son.
I couldn't ever live in it, so I would probably end up selling my half to my brother who could use it for himself.
My question was - As a council tenant, can I inherit this property without putting my tenancy into difficulty?
I don't appreciate people who know nothing about my situation to make crass comments on what I thought was a fairly knowledgable and sensible forum, I was purely after legal advice from people that might know.
If you can sell it fairly quickly then you shouldn't have problem. I know everyone on here is squeeky clean, but personally if I was you, I wouldn't bother telling the council unless you plan to keep it long term.Believe me, I don't live here because I want to. I would happily move to a nicer area given the chance.
The property in question is a 1 bed flat, which I would only inherit 50% of - so this would not be suitable for me, my missus and our son.
I couldn't ever live in it, so I would probably end up selling my half to my brother who could use it for himself.
My question was - As a council tenant, can I inherit this property without putting my tenancy into difficulty?
I don't appreciate people who know nothing about my situation to make crass comments on what I thought was a fairly knowledgable and sensible forum, I was purely after legal advice from people that might know.
Have you thought about taking the profit out of that and using it under the right to buy scheme? If you have been a council tenant for sometime, that could work out really well for you. I understnd that the Tories are bringing it back. As a kid my Mum bought her council flat for 50% discount.
Berw said:
There was a story a few weeks ago in the Daily Mail of a guy with a 20M property porfolio living in council subsidised accomadation, so why would it be illegal for the OP to own a property?
I can see you may have a moral problem, but that wasn't the question.
Was it Bob Crow?I can see you may have a moral problem, but that wasn't the question.
king_of_herts said:
I'm not looking to have anything I am not entitled to.... blah blah blah
Why are you entitled to a tax payers subsidised house? Surely if you need a tax payers subsidised house, you have a basic housing need that can't be resolved on the private housing market. Once you have the means not to need subsidised housing you should move on, it's got f
k all to do with entitlement.OneDs said:
Why are you entitled to a tax payers subsidised house? Surely if you need a tax payers subsidised house, you have a basic housing need that can't be resolved on the private housing market. Once you have the means not to need subsidised housing you should move on, it's got fk all to do with entitlement.
A 'taxpayers subsidised house'....k all to do with entitlement.I pay the same taxes too, so what's your argument exactly?
Like I said in previous posts, I'm not living here because I want to.
(We're not all lucky enough to live in lovely Dorset!)
I actually started a business two years ago, which I mentioned on here before, but you wouldn't know about that as your obviously someone who just types rude comments to look big and clever.
I could also sit on my a*se insulting people I don't know on internet forums, but instead, I go out 7 days a week looking for new business as I want to be able to afford my own place and provide for my wife and child.
I'm not a bum, a scrounger or a poncing foreigner. I am a hard working person who started at the bottom and is trying as hard as they can to make it in life.
I sincerely expected to get some half decent advice on this forum regarding my legal standing, and I am really quite shocked at the negative reactions some of you feel obliged to hand out.
You need to be very careful in your approach to this challenge.
You are obliged to give all the relevant facts to the Council in your initial application for council housing.
Under the agreement signed by you from the council ALL changes in your circumstances MUST be notified immediately.
You can be charged with various criminal offences if you fail to inform the council about your change in circumstances.
Obtaining pecuniary advantage by deception being just one.
There is simply no way you can do this and remain within the law.
I would advise against it: criminality is not a good bedfellow.
Other people may do it and they may get away with it.
But the same is true of Murder, Rape and Arson.
Criminality is Criminality. I would not consider this for a moment.
But it is your choice.
You are obliged to give all the relevant facts to the Council in your initial application for council housing.
Under the agreement signed by you from the council ALL changes in your circumstances MUST be notified immediately.
You can be charged with various criminal offences if you fail to inform the council about your change in circumstances.
Obtaining pecuniary advantage by deception being just one.
There is simply no way you can do this and remain within the law.
I would advise against it: criminality is not a good bedfellow.
Other people may do it and they may get away with it.
But the same is true of Murder, Rape and Arson.
Criminality is Criminality. I would not consider this for a moment.
But it is your choice.
bigbubba said:
You also seem to have a BMW convertible in the garage! I am surprised it isn't a Motability car to really screw the system......
Ha! Well spotted, but unfortunately that went earlier this year when I became a Dad! I now drive a 2002 Transit just in case anyone wants to criticise me for that??Well, I would love to stay and chat some more, but I have to go down the benefit office in 5 mins to claim my £30000 a day benefits in my gold plated rolls royce.
Steffan said:
You need to be very careful in your approach to this challenge.
You are obliged to give all the relevant facts to the Council in your initial application for council housing.
Under the agreement signed by you from the council ALL changes in your circumstances MUST be notified immediately.
You can be charged with various criminal offences if you fail to inform the council about your change in circumstances.
Obtaining pecuniary advantage by deception being just one.
There is simply no way you can do this and remain within the law.
I would advise against it: criminality is not a good bedfellow.
Other people may do it and they may get away with it.
But the same is true of Murder, Rape and Arson.
Criminality is Criminality. I would not consider this for a moment.
But it is your choice.
READ MY POSTS PLEASE BEFORE COMMENTING MATEY.You are obliged to give all the relevant facts to the Council in your initial application for council housing.
Under the agreement signed by you from the council ALL changes in your circumstances MUST be notified immediately.
You can be charged with various criminal offences if you fail to inform the council about your change in circumstances.
Obtaining pecuniary advantage by deception being just one.
There is simply no way you can do this and remain within the law.
I would advise against it: criminality is not a good bedfellow.
Other people may do it and they may get away with it.
But the same is true of Murder, Rape and Arson.
Criminality is Criminality. I would not consider this for a moment.
But it is your choice.
IM NOT APPLYING FOR COUNCIL HOUSING, I ALREADY HAVE IT.
sideways sid said:
Presumably, what you're really saying is that when you inherit part of a property, you'll be able to return the council property to the council to house a more needy tenant, and use either the property, any sale proceeds, or rental income to fund your own accommodation...
Anything else might sound like you're considering adding yourself to the legions of people who have the means to house themselves but prefer to live at the expense of the rest of us!
not all council house tenants cost you money. I pay FULL rent and COUNCIL TAX. so dont cost you anything. Its eletist attitudes like yours that cause social dividesAnything else might sound like you're considering adding yourself to the legions of people who have the means to house themselves but prefer to live at the expense of the rest of us!
I can't believe how holier than thou some people are on this forum.
Leave the guy alone - he asked for some advice not smug comments.
He's started his own business and pays tax like the rest of rest, so as far as I'm concerned he is one of the hard working few that deserve a council house. It's the lazy buggars that don't want to work that I have an issue with.
As for the criminality comments - my view would be to take a sensible approach with the council. If you are planning to sell in 3-6 months after inheriting it then don't bother telling them. If you plan to keep it long term and rent it then you will have to tell them.
The problem with telling the council on day 1 is that they normally so officious with absolutely no pragmatism or common sense you will open a can of worms that doesn't need to opened for such a short term situation.
Leave the guy alone - he asked for some advice not smug comments.
He's started his own business and pays tax like the rest of rest, so as far as I'm concerned he is one of the hard working few that deserve a council house. It's the lazy buggars that don't want to work that I have an issue with.
As for the criminality comments - my view would be to take a sensible approach with the council. If you are planning to sell in 3-6 months after inheriting it then don't bother telling them. If you plan to keep it long term and rent it then you will have to tell them.
The problem with telling the council on day 1 is that they normally so officious with absolutely no pragmatism or common sense you will open a can of worms that doesn't need to opened for such a short term situation.
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