Kia Sorento. I dont get it.
Kia Sorento. I dont get it.
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wildcat45

Original Poster:

8,143 posts

210 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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The dealer where I bought the MX5 back in the spring also sells Kia.

My next big car will be some sort of 4x4/estate so I had a sniff around the new Sorento.

I quite liked it. Nothing special but it did the job in a Travel Inn sort of way. Decent kiit, good warranty, though I wasnt overly taken on looks.

But the price! 30K for the spec I wanted. I try not to be a badge snob. I have 2 Mazdas so its clear that a posh brand is not my top priority. But 30k for a Kia?

A few months down the line, and used ones are still hovering round the high 20s.

I imagined big discounts on new but with strong used prices, I guess not.

So are they just damn good cars? Am i missing something?

Kiltox

14,825 posts

179 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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Kia's entire new range of cars is gaining popularity very quickly - the Sportage is very popular so I imagine the Sorento is too.

How does it compare price wise to an equivalent from another brand? Usually favourably as far as I can tell...

Wacky Racer

40,430 posts

268 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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Never underestimate Korean cars. Look what happened to the British motorcycle industry in the sixties with the Japanese.

wildcat45

Original Poster:

8,143 posts

210 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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So they are the new Japanese car then? I had hoped for a top spec nearly new price to be around 20k

Im not planning on going off road but as my cars have to spend half their lives in the city and the other half on rural A Roads and the odd farm track (Plus snow) i need something thats a bit more rugged than a normal estate.

My present big car a Mazda Cx7 does the job pretty well. I baulked at paying 26k for that and the massive depreciation early on was quite scary. I would have another one but this time a diesel, but I understand Mazdas going to stop importing them.


DanielC4GP

2,792 posts

172 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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I couldn't believe it when I saw a Chrysler Grand Voyager on a main delears forecourt for £36,000.

I do kind of like them as I have a bit of a soft spot for American cars but sorry who in their right mind would pay £36,000 for one.

daydotz

1,778 posts

182 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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DanielC4GP said:
I couldn't believe it when I saw a Chrysler Grand Voyager on a main delears forecourt for £36,000.

I do kind of like them as I have a bit of a soft spot for American cars but sorry who in their right mind would pay £36,000 for one.
I wonder how much sir suga pays for his fleet pf them

falkster

4,258 posts

224 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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A colleague of mine has the top spec sorrento. I too would have turned my nose up at it especially at that price but, in the flesh, it's actually a really nice car that's well put together.
The sound of a tin can when the doors shut has gone, the leather is very nice and well stitched.
There really is nothing that makes you think 'budget' when you're sat in the cabin.
I think Kia have made more of a leap than Hyundai in a much shorter time.

OldSkoolRS

7,066 posts

200 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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Are you comparing the price of nearly new ones at the same dealer or elsewhere? Used main dealer prices always seem to be well above the norm for all sorts of makes and it helps to give the impression of good resale prices.

daemon

38,386 posts

218 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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wildcat45 said:
The dealer where I bought the MX5 back in the spring also sells Kia.

My next big car will be some sort of 4x4/estate so I had a sniff around the new Sorento.

I quite liked it. Nothing special but it did the job in a Travel Inn sort of way. Decent kiit, good warranty, though I wasnt overly taken on looks.

But the price! 30K for the spec I wanted. I try not to be a badge snob. I have 2 Mazdas so its clear that a posh brand is not my top priority. But 30k for a Kia?

A few months down the line, and used ones are still hovering round the high 20s.

I imagined big discounts on new but with strong used prices, I guess not.

So are they just damn good cars? Am i missing something?
The trick is to pick the 'optimum' spec from their standard cars and run with that. Over spec'ing a car is a depreciation disaster.

Also, big discounts when new and strong used prices on any car are mutually exclusive.



Kiltox

14,825 posts

179 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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daemon said:
Also, big discounts when new and strong used prices on any car are mutually exclusive.
yes - see Vauxhall/Ford.

Kia have certainly done a lot for their residuals with the 7 year warranty combined with vastly improved product quality with their newest models. In 7 years time these cars will be about 50p though hehe

0a

24,059 posts

215 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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Kia has caught up and can charge accordingly. A friend has a C’eed and I am surprised to say that for most people it is easily as good as a Focus full stop, apologies are no longer needed for the brand’s products for example stating that it was cheaper.

J4CKO

45,504 posts

221 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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Kiltox said:
daemon said:
Also, big discounts when new and strong used prices on any car are mutually exclusive.
yes - see Vauxhall/Ford.

Kia have certainly done a lot for their residuals with the 7 year warranty combined with vastly improved product quality with their newest models. In 7 years time these cars will be about 50p though hehe
Try and get a decent spec, low mileage S-Max or Galaxy cheaply, regardless of it being a Ford.

Kiltox

14,825 posts

179 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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J4CKO said:
Try and get a decent spec, low mileage S-Max or Galaxy cheaply, regardless of it being a Ford.
You mean to say Ford might actually have a model or two they don't discount to death? hehe

Superhoop

4,847 posts

214 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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wildcat45 said:
My present big car a Mazda Cx7, I would have another one but this time a diesel, but I understand Mazdas going to stop importing them.
They are stopping importing the CX-7, but it's being replaced by the CX-5 in the spring...

joe58

711 posts

172 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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daydotz said:
I wonder how much sir suga pays for his fleet pf them
More importantly how much does he pay for his fleet of woman to tell people they can go into the Board room?

Elroy Blue

8,808 posts

213 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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Unfortunately, while they have a seven year warranty, seven years of servicing at a Korean brand main dealer is more expensive than BMW or Audi (as we found out with a Hyundai Getz.) The theory says you can service outside of a main dealer. I'd like to see the reception to a warranty claim in five years for a car without main dealer servicing.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

238 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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Elroy Blue said:
Unfortunately, while they have a seven year warranty, seven years of servicing at a Korean brand main dealer is more expensive than BMW or Audi (as we found out with a Hyundai Getz.) The theory says you can service outside of a main dealer. I'd like to see the reception to a warranty claim in five years for a car without main dealer servicing.
What's the service plan prices ?

Elroy Blue

8,808 posts

213 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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No idea now. 'Er indoors had a Hyundai Getz with a 5yr warranty. For its 4yr service, we were quoted nearly £450. It was a 1.1 ltr engine, not a V8. For that princely sum, we got an oil and filter change and lots of checking. Took it to an Indy who did it for £80. I'm sure we'd have had fun with a warranty claim

vonhosen

40,597 posts

238 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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Last time I looked at Kia service plan (they are obviously model dependent) started at under £17 a month for a 7 year plan. That included everything on the service schedule for 7 years.

Chr1sch

2,592 posts

214 months

Saturday 29th October 2011
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Having looked at a number leasing options recently, the Kia's are very cheap, I'd imagine that's why they're everywhere!

Personally I don't like them but each to their own...