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I'm looking to change my TD4 Freelander for a V8 Range Rover P38...
Is the 4.6 that much thirstier than the 4.0? I recall from the sales brochures when they were new the difference was negligable, however I'm concerned the 4.6 is not such a tough unit?
I love the Rover V8 engine, having owned previous SD1s, Classic Range Rover and two Discos, a Stag with a Rover engine, and my current classic toy a TVR wedge, but P38s frighten me with their foibles, or are they over hyped?
Comments from previous/current owners highly appreciated.
Is the 4.6 that much thirstier than the 4.0? I recall from the sales brochures when they were new the difference was negligable, however I'm concerned the 4.6 is not such a tough unit?
I love the Rover V8 engine, having owned previous SD1s, Classic Range Rover and two Discos, a Stag with a Rover engine, and my current classic toy a TVR wedge, but P38s frighten me with their foibles, or are they over hyped?
Comments from previous/current owners highly appreciated.
If you dont mind tinkering and getting to know the foibles P38's are a great car especially for the money.. nothing comparable touches them for ability and luxury, i've had all the usual modern Mitsubishis and Toyotas and it's another world in an RR, sure the Landcruiser can work harder for longer without a fault but tbh the RR tows better is far superior off road and is streets ahead in terms of comfort.
I'd always go for a 4.6 the fuel difference is negligible, (both 4.0 and 4.6 are horrific) but the 4.6 is noticeably pokier, the 4.0 is actually identical in bore and stroke (and therefore capacity) to the old 3.9..
On petrol I get about 12mpg in daily use and my partner gets 19 (i've got a lead foot) and a friend with the 4.0 gets about 15 average so very little in it..
The 4.6 does suffer from porus blocks but this can be cured easily with a £30 tub of ceramicseal mines held perfectly for 50k and 5 years of hard use..
In all other things the 4.6 is equal or superior to the 4.0..
Get a gas converted one unless you do tiny miles or have deep pockets it makes all the difference, i converted mine myself (done several before and run my own garage)..
Spend good money get a nice one with fsh if poss and try and make sure everything works it'll take forever but worth checking everything, especially the heating and A/C (HVAC)..
Rangerovers.net is your friend for all advice and understanding!
I'd always go for a 4.6 the fuel difference is negligible, (both 4.0 and 4.6 are horrific) but the 4.6 is noticeably pokier, the 4.0 is actually identical in bore and stroke (and therefore capacity) to the old 3.9..
On petrol I get about 12mpg in daily use and my partner gets 19 (i've got a lead foot) and a friend with the 4.0 gets about 15 average so very little in it..
The 4.6 does suffer from porus blocks but this can be cured easily with a £30 tub of ceramicseal mines held perfectly for 50k and 5 years of hard use..
In all other things the 4.6 is equal or superior to the 4.0..
Get a gas converted one unless you do tiny miles or have deep pockets it makes all the difference, i converted mine myself (done several before and run my own garage)..
Spend good money get a nice one with fsh if poss and try and make sure everything works it'll take forever but worth checking everything, especially the heating and A/C (HVAC)..
Rangerovers.net is your friend for all advice and understanding!
Edited by 10mpg on Monday 31st October 01:05
4.6 all day long.
As far as I know it's the same block and just a longer stroke so slipping liners or porosity are possible on both.
You get more toys as standard on the 4.6 and they are definitely quicker.
Go for a post 2000 model with BOSCH injection (banana manifold). They are slightly better on fuel and run cooler than the previous GEM's system which is beneficial to possible engine problems.
You will need a new suspension air compressor at some point and you will need to replace the drivers seat heating element.
The best spec'd is a late Vogue SE so that's where I'd be looking.
As far as I know it's the same block and just a longer stroke so slipping liners or porosity are possible on both.
You get more toys as standard on the 4.6 and they are definitely quicker.
Go for a post 2000 model with BOSCH injection (banana manifold). They are slightly better on fuel and run cooler than the previous GEM's system which is beneficial to possible engine problems.
You will need a new suspension air compressor at some point and you will need to replace the drivers seat heating element.
The best spec'd is a late Vogue SE so that's where I'd be looking.
PHJayV8 said:
I'm looking to change my TD4 Freelander for a V8 Range Rover P38...
Is the 4.6 that much thirstier than the 4.0? I recall from the sales brochures when they were new the difference was negligable, however I'm concerned the 4.6 is not such a tough unit?
I love the Rover V8 engine, having owned previous SD1s, Classic Range Rover and two Discos, a Stag with a Rover engine, and my current classic toy a TVR wedge, but P38s frighten me with their foibles, or are they over hyped?
Comments from previous/current owners highly appreciated.
I think either would be fine, buy on condition and spec you are after more than engine size.Is the 4.6 that much thirstier than the 4.0? I recall from the sales brochures when they were new the difference was negligable, however I'm concerned the 4.6 is not such a tough unit?
I love the Rover V8 engine, having owned previous SD1s, Classic Range Rover and two Discos, a Stag with a Rover engine, and my current classic toy a TVR wedge, but P38s frighten me with their foibles, or are they over hyped?
Comments from previous/current owners highly appreciated.
4.6's were generally better specced in standard trim though.
Not sure, but you might have been able to get the 4.0 as a manual whereas the 4.6 was auto only.
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