Honesty with Salesman!!!!!!
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Hi all, ive recently come across some photos of a car that was sold to an aquaintance of my old flame.
He's pretty upset because when he bought the car he was assured that the car had had no paintwork done in the previous ownerships. Well you can imagine his surprise when he was browsing one day and found detailed pics of his car dismantled and undergoing a full respray at a crash repair centre.
I'm a newbie to this environment and am considering loads of info before i make my 1st purchase, Its a bit of a minefield really so would appreciate some positive input .
Im based around the redhill area and on 1st searches there seems to be quite a few independent dealers quite near to me.
Im trying delicatley to obtain the sellers info of the above car so i can give him a wide berth, and obviously omit him from my list as potentials.
Would Appreciate feedback !
He's pretty upset because when he bought the car he was assured that the car had had no paintwork done in the previous ownerships. Well you can imagine his surprise when he was browsing one day and found detailed pics of his car dismantled and undergoing a full respray at a crash repair centre.
I'm a newbie to this environment and am considering loads of info before i make my 1st purchase, Its a bit of a minefield really so would appreciate some positive input .
Im based around the redhill area and on 1st searches there seems to be quite a few independent dealers quite near to me.
Im trying delicatley to obtain the sellers info of the above car so i can give him a wide berth, and obviously omit him from my list as potentials.
Would Appreciate feedback !
Unless you're buying a one owner car - from that owner - nobody can tell you whether the car has had paint and I'm surprised anybody would believe it from a dealer. And if it's an older car, it probably has anyway but that doesn't mean it has a major problem. HPI helps a bit.
There are several dealers regularly recommended on here. If you want to buy a good car, it is worth travelling if necessary.
There are several dealers regularly recommended on here. If you want to buy a good car, it is worth travelling if necessary.
newtoporsche said:
Hi all, ive recently come across some photos of a car that was sold to an aquaintance of my old flame.
andnewtoporsche said:
Im trying delicatley to obtain the sellers info of the above car so i can give him a wide berth, and obviously omit him from my list as potentials.
Would Appreciate feedback
Why don't you ask the "aquaintance" where it was bought from?Would Appreciate feedback
Whats so bad if it has been painted?
Is that not just a sign that the owner would like it to be in top condition?
All cars will get swirl marks over the years (ok so can be polished out) and stonechips and maybe a scuff (ie parking etc), which can be attributed to normal use. Anything more severe is crash damage and depending on the severity would be well documented - cat A/D write off etc.
If its had a new wing and a new door because somebody wasn't looking where they were going - so what?
As long as the chassis is ok and the panels fit and work properly I don't see the problem.
My car is getting painted right now to take the stonechips out and then followed by a machine polish for the swirl marks, I consider this good ownership as its considerable expense and a benefit to any future owner.
ps I hope you are not stalking your ex! Move on buddy!!
Is that not just a sign that the owner would like it to be in top condition?
All cars will get swirl marks over the years (ok so can be polished out) and stonechips and maybe a scuff (ie parking etc), which can be attributed to normal use. Anything more severe is crash damage and depending on the severity would be well documented - cat A/D write off etc.
If its had a new wing and a new door because somebody wasn't looking where they were going - so what?
As long as the chassis is ok and the panels fit and work properly I don't see the problem.
My car is getting painted right now to take the stonechips out and then followed by a machine polish for the swirl marks, I consider this good ownership as its considerable expense and a benefit to any future owner.
ps I hope you are not stalking your ex! Move on buddy!!
I believe it is normal practice to respray the nose section before resale by most OPC's to remove stone chips etc. As for recommended dealers around Redhill, it depends on what age of Porsche you are looking for, I can certainly recommend Porsche Centre Mid Sussex, located in Burgess Hill. Also have heard good things about 911 Virgin which aren't that far away
I've had 3 Porsches now - all have been resprayed. I see it as expected now for Porsche - and indeed all sports cars really.
Porsche dealers have to spray any chipped panels as part of their approved used schemes or they will get spanked by Porsche almighty for selling a car that isn't spotless.
Don't worry about it, just have an inspection done
Porsche dealers have to spray any chipped panels as part of their approved used schemes or they will get spanked by Porsche almighty for selling a car that isn't spotless.
Don't worry about it, just have an inspection done
I think there is a big bit of missing the point going on here chaps. It's either me or you lot. My money's on you lot 
The OP was talking about a dealer who sold a car that "had no paintwork done". It had actually had a complete respray at a crash repair centre.
So he's not saying that he doesn't want paint done.
(ever helpful) Bert
The OP was talking about a dealer who sold a car that "had no paintwork done". It had actually had a complete respray at a crash repair centre.
So he's not saying that he doesn't want paint done.
(ever helpful) Bert
davek_964 said:
nobody can tell you whether the car has had paint
Fifteen minutes with one of these will tell you...http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/COATING-AND-PAINT-THICKN...
Coatings applied in a body shop will be different thickness to a factory finish so it is easy to tell.
But I agree these days very few cars will never have paint and it's not something to get hung up about.
BertBert said:
I think there is a big bit of missing the point going on here chaps. It's either me or you lot. My money's on you lot
The OP was talking about a dealer who sold a car that "had no paintwork done". It had actually had a complete respray at a crash repair centre.
So he's not saying that he doesn't want paint done.
(ever helpful) Bert
I think this is the issue that was bubbling under the surface thanks bert!!The OP was talking about a dealer who sold a car that "had no paintwork done". It had actually had a complete respray at a crash repair centre.
So he's not saying that he doesn't want paint done.
(ever helpful) Bert
Good points all in all , im getting the impression that hes more upset that he wasnt in possession of that info to base his decision if you see what i mean.
CrazyTurboBeast said:
Whats so bad if it has been painted?
Is that not just a sign that the owner would like it to be in top condition?
All cars will get swirl marks over the years (ok so can be polished out) and stonechips and maybe a scuff (ie parking etc), which can be attributed to normal use. Anything more severe is crash damage and depending on the severity would be well documented - cat A/D write off etc.
If its had a new wing and a new door because somebody wasn't looking where they were going - so what?
As long as the chassis is ok and the panels fit and work properly I don't see the problem.
My car is getting painted right now to take the stonechips out and then followed by a machine polish for the swirl marks, I consider this good ownership as its considerable expense and a benefit to any future owner.
ps I hope you are not stalking your ex! Move on buddy!!
Is that not just a sign that the owner would like it to be in top condition?
All cars will get swirl marks over the years (ok so can be polished out) and stonechips and maybe a scuff (ie parking etc), which can be attributed to normal use. Anything more severe is crash damage and depending on the severity would be well documented - cat A/D write off etc.
If its had a new wing and a new door because somebody wasn't looking where they were going - so what?
As long as the chassis is ok and the panels fit and work properly I don't see the problem.
My car is getting painted right now to take the stonechips out and then followed by a machine polish for the swirl marks, I consider this good ownership as its considerable expense and a benefit to any future owner.
ps I hope you are not stalking your ex! Move on buddy!!
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