What's the best sporty diesel to go for?
What's the best sporty diesel to go for?
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Matt Wills

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94 posts

248 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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Hi all

I'm after a fun diesel to replace my Honda Civic Type R.

I've got a budget of up to £10K and was thinking of something like a Renaultsport Megane DCI175 but if people have any other suggestions they would be very useful.

Many thanks in advance,

Matt smile

daemon

38,258 posts

217 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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535d

woody2846

1,369 posts

170 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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How about a Leon or Ibiza FR TDI?

edo

16,699 posts

285 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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Sorry but it wouldnt be french.

BMW are head and shoulders ahead on derv.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...




v8will

3,308 posts

216 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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Diesel is for saving money or for commercial vehicles...

Something with a BMW badge I'd say smile

hornetrider

63,161 posts

225 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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Chris_VRS

2,316 posts

213 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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330Cd

P I Staker

3,308 posts

176 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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woody2846 said:
How about a Leon or Ibiza FR TDI?
Exactly what popped into my head.

simoid

19,774 posts

178 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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I can't believe I'm the first to say "Don't do it!"

wink

LocoBlade

7,653 posts

276 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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An early E90 330d or a leggy 123d shouldnt be too far off that figure, about as sporty as you'll get and both at least a match for the Civic in terms of straight line performance..

sebhaque

6,534 posts

201 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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If you're looking for a hatchback-type car, then the BMW 123d should just about be accessible. Otherwise the Skoda Fabia/Octavia vRS is well worth a look, and I'd even go as far as to suggest that a Mondeo ST TDCi would be poky enough.

With a lot of diesels, the sportiness feel comes from the power delivery (nice big lump before you change gear); and as such is perceived speed rather than actual. I used to love booting my old works Zafira through the gears, I was only going 60 by the time I'd finished in third but it was a very enjoyable way of getting there!

Emley

352 posts

266 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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sebhaque said:
If you're looking for a hatchback-type car, then the BMW 123d should just about be accessible.

With a lot of diesels, the sportiness feel comes from the power delivery (nice big lump before you change gear); and as such is perceived speed rather than actual.
The pace of my BMW 123d coupe was anything but perceived.
As a daily drive mine had to go, I was going to get into serious trouble.
Every time I got in it I wanted to drive it like a Touring Car, it was ace.
I hoped the looks would grow on me too, but they never did, still looks like a pig.

but as an oily drive, ace...

The Type R might lap Bedford marginally quicker, but I can't imagine you would find a 123d wanting on the road.

sebhaque

6,534 posts

201 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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Emley said:
The pace of my BMW 123d coupe was anything but perceived.
As a daily drive mine had to go, I was going to get into serious trouble.
Every time I got in it I wanted to drive it like a Touring Car, it was ace.
I hoped the looks would grow on me too, but they never did, still looks like a pig.

but as an oily drive, ace...

The Type R might lap Bedford marginally quicker, but I can't imagine you would find a 123d wanting on the road.
I think my post wasn't very well written - the 123d is quite bonkers (it's a twin turbo!), what I was meaning to convey was that other cars such as a Golf GT or even a 120d aren't as quick as they feel, but are a good laugh nonetheless.

daemon

38,258 posts

217 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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v8will said:
Diesel is for saving money or for commercial vehicles...

Something with a BMW badge I'd say smile
From the man who drives that well know performance car, the Yaris....

v8will said:
I'm looking at small cars. Do i look at something small and Italian (Fiat Panda?) or go with one of the Korean alternatives?

Any thoughts?

All I have decided so far is my Yaris, although ideal as it's doing a reliable 55MPG, already has 87K on it
Edited by daemon on Tuesday 1st November 10:00

anonymous-user

74 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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I like audi quartto a4 TDi, not the really sporty, but a stable handler and good build quality.

With a few mods can become a better car.




StottyZr

6,860 posts

183 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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The Spruce goose said:
I like audi quartto a4 TDi, not the really sporty, but a stable handler and good build quality.

With a few mods can become a better car.
A friend is currently selling his, 56 plate I think, £9500 black A4 3.0v6 Quattro with stainless steel straight pipes. It sounds as close as you could possibly get to a petrol.

frosted

3,549 posts

197 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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Yes a big diesel engine car is not very economical , I suggest you stay within the 2l limit

off_again

13,917 posts

254 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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daemon said:
535d
Big old beast, but stunningly quick and a mighty find piece of engineering!

That or (as previously mentioned) something like a 330d or 123d. The 123d is stunning and is as quick as a Golf GTI on paper. In reality its more flexible in the real-world so you can cover distances very quickly and easily. BUT its not the most attractive car and somewhat expensive for what it is.

The 330d is also equally stunning. Heavier, not quite as sporting and usually full of kit / extras. Its the urge of these things that gets me. When you put your foot right down, the torque hit is amazing and you are off. I understand that they can eat rear tyres if you arent careful.

I wouldnt bother with the Audi's though. Yes they are quick, but older ones (for the price bracket) will be the older engine (heavy) and with the crap suspension setup. Yes, fast in a straight line, but corners will be dull wallowy affairs and not entertaining.

Not quite sporty, but does the Merc C320CDI fit into this? A bit "old man" image, but in the later Sport spec they are quite nice and the 320CDI engine is a corker (even more torque that the BMW I believe!). Never going to set your trousers alight, but might be interesting.

Finally, the later Golf GTTDI was supposed to be good. In 170BHP spec and the sport suspension it was supposed to be a nice drive. NOT as good as a proper petrol GTI, but I know a few people with them who say they are growers.....

Lets Torque

10,974 posts

177 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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woody2846 said:
How about a Leon or Ibiza FR TDI?
SEAT Leon FR TDI came to mind.

I also like the Alpina suggestion.

I don't know if you want a hatch, but if you don't mind what about a Lexus IS (post 2006)?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

224 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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Matt Wills said:
Hi all

I'm after a fun diesel to replace my Honda Civic Type R.

I've got a budget of up to £10K and was thinking of something like a Renaultsport Megane DCI175 but if people have any other suggestions they would be very useful.

Many thanks in advance,

Matt smile
WHY?


Diesel its way over here<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Fast is here in the middle>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sporty its over here


And cheap to run is somewhere else