Derestricting M cars
Derestricting M cars
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jm doc

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2,934 posts

258 months

Monday 31st October 2011
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I recently got back into M world again after 2 year enforced absence smile. I never bothered about removing top speed restriction on my previous 3 cars but intend to spend a bit more time in Europe with M6 and have been thinking about it because I find it quite frustrating running out of top end in 5th with 2 gears left to go.....

I wondered if anyone could recommend where I could get this done, some idea of cost and whether it can cause warranty problems? I live in the north east but would have no problem travelling somewhere else.

Cheers

paul81

14 posts

176 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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Hi, from what ive read there’s a package bmw offer, this involves the removal and sending of your DME computer to m munchen to be re-programmed, if I remember rightly this increases top speed to 190+ mph, not sure on cost, I think it was under 2 grand but you also received some kind of track day training as part of the package. There are very reputable tuners such as DMS who can easily remap and remove the limiter, a guy at work had his e92 m3 de-limited by them and says it is fantastic, but on the downside he has subsequently been told by the dealer his engine and drive train will not be covered by the warranty, (They didnt trace it he told them and I don’t know why he didn’t try and find this out prior), his argument is it doesn’t make sense to void the warranty if BMW are offering this as an option. I’m in the process of getting an M5 and this is 1 of the first things thing ill be looking to do, so ive been trying to find out if I do get it remapped and de-limited are these traceable but I just keep getting conflicting reports.

Chessers

745 posts

238 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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You can have it mapped by a specialist like Evolve which will remove your limiter (if you ask).

I would not have thought that you will still be covered on an AUC warranty though if you do this.

krallicious

4,312 posts

231 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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BMW offer a 'Driver's Package' in Germany that will delimit/allow a higer limit for new M-cars although it was not available in GB when I purchased my car in 2009.

Sir_Dave

1,506 posts

236 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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According to some scientific research in my bosses M6, the 155mph limiter doesnt kick in in 6th ...

It was still pulling at a speedo indicated 165 apparently, although that doesnt mean that if you get to an indicated 170+, it doesnt kick in at a 'true' gps'd 155bhp - from the satnav.


Jarrod

234 posts

286 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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Sir_Dave said:
According to some scientific research in my bosses M6, the 155mph limiter doesnt kick in in 6th ...

It was still pulling at a speedo indicated 165 apparently, although that doesnt mean that if you get to an indicated 170+, it doesnt kick in at a 'true' gps'd 155bhp - from the satnav.
My E46 M3 was the same, go past 155 in 5th (SMG) then hit 6th and get round the limiter (this was done at Bruntingthorpe) and I was clocked at 167mph with the speedo reading past 175mph.

Laird

26,140 posts

240 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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Jarrod said:
Sir_Dave said:
According to some scientific research in my bosses M6, the 155mph limiter doesnt kick in in 6th ...

It was still pulling at a speedo indicated 165 apparently, although that doesnt mean that if you get to an indicated 170+, it doesnt kick in at a 'true' gps'd 155bhp - from the satnav.
My E46 M3 was the same, go past 155 in 5th (SMG) then hit 6th and get round the limiter (this was done at Bruntingthorpe) and I was clocked at 167mph with the speedo reading past 175mph.
It's well known that the '155mph' limiter eventually calls time at 164/165mph. All my //M cars have hit the buffers at exactly the same speed (except the derestricted one).

However, the limiter applies in all gears. Therefore, being able to bypass it in 5th or 6th (for SMG III cars) is a myth.

ant man

170 posts

196 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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I too would recommend Evolve for removing the speed limiter. And while at it, why not go for a remap too? smile

Cheburator mk2

3,203 posts

225 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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My M5 E61 headbutted the limiter at 172mph indicated on the HUD... Did it in 6th and in 7th. No idea what the real speed at the time was...

jm doc

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2,934 posts

258 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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My prev E60 hit the limiter in 5th gear. Also M cars are limited to 310 kph unlike other cars which are limited to 300kph. This is equivalent to 163 mph compared to 155 mph for others. But is derestricting them obvious routinely to BMW and will it invalidate your warranty? (and if so, why?)

Hughesie

12,759 posts

308 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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Mine had its limiter removed whilst at BMW in GmBH by a previous owner.

Laird

26,140 posts

240 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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jm doc said:
My prev E60 hit the limiter in 5th gear. Also M cars are limited to 310 kph unlike other cars which are limited to 300kph. This is equivalent to 163 mph compared to 155 mph for others. But is derestricting them obvious routinely to BMW and will it invalidate your warranty? (and if so, why?)
One wonders whether your kmh/mph conversion tool is a little out of kilter wink


jm doc

Original Poster:

2,934 posts

258 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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Laird said:
jm doc said:
My prev E60 hit the limiter in 5th gear. Also M cars are limited to 310 kph unlike other cars which are limited to 300kph. This is equivalent to 163 mph compared to 155 mph for others. But is derestricting them obvious routinely to BMW and will it invalidate your warranty? (and if so, why?)
One wonders whether your kmh/mph conversion tool is a little out of kilter wink
I must apologise profusely for my embarassing lapse. getmecoat I meant of course 250 kph and 260 kph respectively, which equates to 155 and 163 mph (approx)

B16JUS

2,386 posts

263 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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as above my m6 stops at 164 showing on the HUD i have no question with the way its still pulling that it would carry on a lot lot further.

I wonder if any of the de limited cars have seen 200 on the HUD

J

Hughesie

12,759 posts

308 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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B16JUS said:
I wonder if any of the de limited cars have seen 200 on the HUD

J
yeswink

jm doc

Original Poster:

2,934 posts

258 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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There was a video posted a few years ago of a derestricted M6 showing 203 mph on the HUD, if I recall correctly

W8PMC

3,385 posts

264 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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A DMS remap will see that pesky limiter removed.

Used to get a timing beam 182mph at VMAX in my E60 M5 & IIRC the DMS M6 was hitting high 180's down the runway.

B16JUS

2,386 posts

263 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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Hughesie said:
yeswink
Id love to say " pics " but i dont thing anyone could have the balls to take a pic of the HUD @ 200 +

jm doc

Original Poster:

2,934 posts

258 months

Tuesday 1st November 2011
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Couldn't find a video showing HUD, only this. I swear you can see the fuel guage needle dropping......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMKkPxei0I

Hughesie

12,759 posts

308 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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B16JUS said:
Id love to say " pics " but i dont thing anyone could have the balls to take a pic of the HUD @ 200 +
Next time i have the balls to do it (officer) i hope to have someone with me that can take one.

Only done it a couple of times (never in the UK officer wink )