Lightweight modern performance cars
Lightweight modern performance cars
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300bhp/ton

Original Poster:

41,030 posts

219 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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With all the talk of porky cars, it got me thinking. Are there many/any modern performance cars that could truly be considered lightweight?


Cars must be:

-Either in production now or have been in the past 10 years (UK market)
-Be performance orientated, they don't need to be hugely fast, but proper sporting and/or performance credentials required
-Be a proper mass production car that is or could be sold in any world market with full type approval
-Weigh less than 1200kg
-RWD would be an advantage, but not a necessity
-No kit cars
-No super/hyper cars
-Nothing costing over £60k



Obvious answer will be Elise and VX220. Although neither are proper world cars really.

MINI Cooper S would seem a strong candidate (bar the FWD bit wink )


So what else?

smile

kambites

71,474 posts

250 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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MX5, MR2, MGTF?

Ecosseven

2,367 posts

246 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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Morgan

kambites

71,474 posts

250 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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Ginetta G40R?

Bonefish Blues

36,515 posts

252 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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BBR MX 5

VR6 Turbo

2,716 posts

183 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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kambites said:
Ginetta G40R?
gets my vote!

VR

300bhp/ton

Original Poster:

41,030 posts

219 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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Ecosseven said:
Morgan
Mass produced? biglaugh

300bhp/ton

Original Poster:

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Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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kambites said:
Ginetta G40R?
I like these a lot.

Not sure the really meet the mass produced bit or world car.

I mean, could they get type approval for the US, Japan or Oz?

boobles

15,251 posts

244 months

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Classic Grad 98

26,503 posts

189 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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Caterham of course.

kambites

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250 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
kambites said:
Ginetta G40R?
I like these a lot.

Not sure the really meet the mass produced bit or world car.

I mean, could they get type approval for the US, Japan or Oz?
I don't think they're even type approved for Europe, so fair point. I assume the same goes for Morgans, at least the cheaper "old fashioned" ones.

Crusoe

4,123 posts

260 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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Smart roadster/coupe
Toyota MR2 MK3
MX5
Aberth fiat 500
Fiat Panda 100bhp

Honda NSX Type R smile

Tanguero

4,535 posts

230 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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Cerbera

lazyitus

19,931 posts

295 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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Tanguero said:
Cerbera
I nearly put TVR but I think the following line makes it a void choice for this thread..

"Be a proper mass production car that is or could be sold in any world market with full type approval"

Depends how one defines mass production, though.

Edited by lazyitus on Wednesday 2nd November 11:03

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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Classic Grad 98 said:
Caterham of course.
In fact 2 Caterhams hehe

milfordkong

1,307 posts

261 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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Clio 172 Cup - FWD but still a lightweight modern performance car.

soxboy

7,573 posts

248 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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I guess the closest you will get is an Elise.

I doubt there will be a more definitive answer because the car you are describing is not a world car which manufacturers are interested in making. Whilst most on PH would love such a car to exist, the market would be miniscule unfortunately. Hence, it remains a niche such as the Lotus (and even then once the Elise dies I doubt we will ever see such a car again for the price now that Lotus has made its intentions clear on where it wants to position itself in the market).

GravelBen

16,497 posts

259 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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Guess (as always) it depends how you define lightweight - at 1130kg the current MX5 is light by most people's standard and a mainstream 'world car'. Sub-1000 seems to be more the realm of low-volume specialist manufacturers now though unfortunately.

DrTre

12,957 posts

261 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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S2k? Might be too heavy.
Eta only just.

Edited by DrTre on Wednesday 2nd November 12:45

Noger

7,117 posts

278 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2011
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Fiat 500 Abarth ?

Although clearly Caterham are a contender, they now have an Indian arm too !