R8 V10 vs. LP560?
Discussion
I heard Audi are going to be uprating the V10 in the R8 to 552hp early next year. I was just wondering from anyone who's driven both the R8 V10 and the LP560, how different an experience they really were?
It seems a bit weird Audi are so aggressively hunting after supercar sales when surely Lambo is their core supercar brand within the family.
It seems a bit weird Audi are so aggressively hunting after supercar sales when surely Lambo is their core supercar brand within the family.
i think audi view the r8 as a challenger to the 911, and given the 998 is due out, feel they needed to refresh the r8 a bit......before the 988 turbo is unleashed....
don;t think they view the r8 to be a gallardo challenger....but there is obviously huge similarities... ultimately i think someone who is looking at a gallardo will always buy a gallardo, imho that is...
don;t think they view the r8 to be a gallardo challenger....but there is obviously huge similarities... ultimately i think someone who is looking at a gallardo will always buy a gallardo, imho that is...
I genuinely think they attract different buyers..
I've had both (not a 560 tho), the Gallardo when I was running a daily driver & the R8 when I wasn't..
In my opinion they offer very similar performance but the Lambo has more drama/theatre/occasion etc.. The R8 is a superbly built everyday supercar..
I dont think anyone cosidering a brand new 560 would consider an R8 just because they have similar performance (& there's a 50k price difference too!), in the same way they wont consider a 911 Turbo or GTR..
New Lambo's have a specific customer profile & often they can afford an R8/GTR/911 aswell..
When you want a Lambo, ONLY a Lambo will doo!!
I've had both (not a 560 tho), the Gallardo when I was running a daily driver & the R8 when I wasn't..
In my opinion they offer very similar performance but the Lambo has more drama/theatre/occasion etc.. The R8 is a superbly built everyday supercar..
I dont think anyone cosidering a brand new 560 would consider an R8 just because they have similar performance (& there's a 50k price difference too!), in the same way they wont consider a 911 Turbo or GTR..
New Lambo's have a specific customer profile & often they can afford an R8/GTR/911 aswell..
When you want a Lambo, ONLY a Lambo will doo!!
ferdi p said:
I genuinely think they attract different buyers..
I've had both (not a 560 tho), the Gallardo when I was running a daily driver & the R8 when I wasn't..
In my opinion they offer very similar performance but the Lambo has more drama/theatre/occasion etc.. The R8 is a superbly built everyday supercar..
I dont think anyone cosidering a brand new 560 would consider an R8 just because they have similar performance (& there's a 50k price difference too!), in the same way they wont consider a 911 Turbo or GTR..
New Lambo's have a specific customer profile & often they can afford an R8/GTR/911 aswell..
When you want a Lambo, ONLY a Lambo will doo!!
My thinking was just that if it did have 552hp, that would mean it's pretty much running the same engine as the LP560. Performance figures must at that point be near identical, ditto to some degree engine sound (assuming exhaust etc. is similar to get such similar power), so you're paying a lot more for the same car with a prettier bodyshell (the Gallardo is a better looking car than the R8 imo, although the R8 is very nice).I've had both (not a 560 tho), the Gallardo when I was running a daily driver & the R8 when I wasn't..
In my opinion they offer very similar performance but the Lambo has more drama/theatre/occasion etc.. The R8 is a superbly built everyday supercar..
I dont think anyone cosidering a brand new 560 would consider an R8 just because they have similar performance (& there's a 50k price difference too!), in the same way they wont consider a 911 Turbo or GTR..
New Lambo's have a specific customer profile & often they can afford an R8/GTR/911 aswell..
When you want a Lambo, ONLY a Lambo will doo!!
Do you think Lambo will bump the performance figures up in the LP to maintain the distance, or will they trade more on the fact it's a little better looking, much, much rarer and more bespoke?
I suppose with the Aventador now hitting close to £300k ( am i right or wrong?) that leaves enough space in the market for the new Gallardo model to command a higher price.
Which then means that the new Audi with higher BHP can now fill that gap better as the new Gallardo will probably have closer to 600bhp, as the aventador is 700bhp.
All about the margins.
I was considering a lp560 but in the end i picked the R8 v10 spyder. I do think some people will see price as factor when you look at the specs of the two cars, they are practically the same. making the additional money for the lp560 look somewhat wasted.
my decision wasnt about the money difference, aswith all high end cars you buy them first to enjoy and not for financial reasons. The decision was actually on preference and ethos of the two cars.
Which then means that the new Audi with higher BHP can now fill that gap better as the new Gallardo will probably have closer to 600bhp, as the aventador is 700bhp.
All about the margins.
I was considering a lp560 but in the end i picked the R8 v10 spyder. I do think some people will see price as factor when you look at the specs of the two cars, they are practically the same. making the additional money for the lp560 look somewhat wasted.
my decision wasnt about the money difference, aswith all high end cars you buy them first to enjoy and not for financial reasons. The decision was actually on preference and ethos of the two cars.
xto said:
I suppose with the Aventador now hitting close to £300k ( am i right or wrong?) that leaves enough space in the market for the new Gallardo model to command a higher price.
Which then means that the new Audi with higher BHP can now fill that gap better as the new Gallardo will probably have closer to 600bhp, as the aventador is 700bhp.
All about the margins.
I was considering a lp560 but in the end i picked the R8 v10 spyder. I do think some people will see price as factor when you look at the specs of the two cars, they are practically the same. making the additional money for the lp560 look somewhat wasted.
my decision wasnt about the money difference, aswith all high end cars you buy them first to enjoy and not for financial reasons. The decision was actually on preference and ethos of the two cars.
What did you find the main differences were in driving them? Did they feel distinctly different in character?Which then means that the new Audi with higher BHP can now fill that gap better as the new Gallardo will probably have closer to 600bhp, as the aventador is 700bhp.
All about the margins.
I was considering a lp560 but in the end i picked the R8 v10 spyder. I do think some people will see price as factor when you look at the specs of the two cars, they are practically the same. making the additional money for the lp560 look somewhat wasted.
my decision wasnt about the money difference, aswith all high end cars you buy them first to enjoy and not for financial reasons. The decision was actually on preference and ethos of the two cars.
ferdi p said:
I genuinely think they attract different buyers..
I've had both (not a 560 tho), the Gallardo when I was running a daily driver & the R8 when I wasn't..
In my opinion they offer very similar performance but the Lambo has more drama/theatre/occasion etc.. The R8 is a superbly built everyday supercar..
I dont think anyone cosidering a brand new 560 would consider an R8 just because they have similar performance (& there's a 50k price difference too!), in the same way they wont consider a 911 Turbo or GTR..
New Lambo's have a specific customer profile & often they can afford an R8/GTR/911 aswell..
When you want a Lambo, ONLY a Lambo will doo!!
I've had both (not a 560 tho), the Gallardo when I was running a daily driver & the R8 when I wasn't..
In my opinion they offer very similar performance but the Lambo has more drama/theatre/occasion etc.. The R8 is a superbly built everyday supercar..
I dont think anyone cosidering a brand new 560 would consider an R8 just because they have similar performance (& there's a 50k price difference too!), in the same way they wont consider a 911 Turbo or GTR..
New Lambo's have a specific customer profile & often they can afford an R8/GTR/911 aswell..
When you want a Lambo, ONLY a Lambo will doo!!
Spot on. I have driven both and there is no doubting the capability of the R8 but I still bought a Gallardo as it had more "presence" and made me feel more special.
iandc said:
Spot on. I have driven both and there is no doubting the capability of the R8 but I still bought a Gallardo as it had more "presence" and made me feel more special.
iandc said:
70proof said:
feeling special is what is evoked by the badge with the bull in it, and it is all part of the ownership experience.....plus r8's don;t some in green!
Oh yes they do!! special order paint. Dick Lovett had one in last year. I was tempted but the 560 won in the end!
Google 'Java Green Audi R8' it's actually very nice. Someone on ClubScuderia had one (possibly the same one) if I remember correctly.I thought the r8 v10 is just a detuned lambo v10, a simple management software update unleashes the full 560 bhp,
I haven't driven the lp560 but did own a r8 ,r8 is more practical and can be used on a daily basis,cheap to run for the sort of car it is as well.the lambo as has been said just makes you feel special,something the r8 (and i am a massive fan) doesn't.
I haven't driven the lp560 but did own a r8 ,r8 is more practical and can be used on a daily basis,cheap to run for the sort of car it is as well.the lambo as has been said just makes you feel special,something the r8 (and i am a massive fan) doesn't.
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