Sources of drive train slack
Sources of drive train slack
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taylormj4

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296 months

Thursday 10th November 2011
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I have had some drive train slack in the car since I bought it and it's steadily got worse, probably worsened by the shunting. From underneath, I can't rotate the main driveshaft or the half shafts by hand in either direction so those seem fine. Where else could this clonking be coming from - what are the common culprits: gearbox / diff ?

A garage has offered to "ball pein" and refit the hub ends of the halfshafts but I would have expected to be able to feel the slack in the half shafts by hand a few degrees or so if those were the problem.

SSPPGG

2,120 posts

232 months

Thursday 10th November 2011
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diff mounts or gearbox mounts are the first places id check

Alexdaredevilz

5,697 posts

209 months

Thursday 10th November 2011
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I had this and took me a very long time to find

I was a knock coming on and off the throttle

I checked all bolts were done up tight on whoel drive train, and it still done it!

But it turns out the 4 bolts holding the diff have allen keys at the back and hex nuts at the front, I checked the nuts when i did my checking and they were tight.

But the hex nuts are only locking nuts once the allen head has been done up

So what i did was loosen the hex nuts to find my allen bolts were loose once done up then tighten the hex nuts

dbv8

8,676 posts

250 months

Thursday 10th November 2011
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So you had a screw loose Alex? Shocking laugh

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,466 posts

195 months

Thursday 10th November 2011
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Interesting. If I'm a bit clumsy with the throttle I sometimes get a sort-of dull "clunk-a-clunk" sound as I re-apply power. I've often wondered if something's loose.

dbv8

8,676 posts

250 months

Thursday 10th November 2011
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I think thay all do it to some degree.
Ive changed everything on mine and it can still clunk.
It has to be play in the diff or gearbox for me.... i suspect the diff.

taylormj4

Original Poster:

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296 months

Thursday 10th November 2011
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Thanks for the ideas. I have the same with the Range Rover but its real obvious where the slack is as the propshaft can be rotated a few degrees back and forth but the half shafts do not, so slack in the diff. The TVR doesn't do this however, all shafts seem rock solid. Perhaps I should try the same with the rear wheels off the ground and rotating the shafts and then reversing.
You're right though Alex and Dr Ox, it is when coming on off the throttle. It didn't used to be too bad but since the clutch has been changed (not quite right) it is worse and now I can't tell what's due to the original and what's been introduced as a result of the clutch change.
How can you test the diff mount bushings - just lever it around a bit ?
Are they touch to change - I have a sets of spares.
Maybe it is gearbox mounts as I have had a squeeking noise when going over bumps ever since I had the clutch changed. I had guessed that it was the shocks which had been put through more travel than normal as a result of being unloaded (gearbox coming out).

Edited by taylormj4 on Thursday 10th November 14:24

Alexdaredevilz

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Thursday 10th November 2011
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dbv8 said:
So you had a screw loose Alex? Shocking laugh
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dbv8

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250 months

Thursday 10th November 2011
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Alexdaredevilz said:
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frown below the belt!

Alexdaredevilz

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Thursday 10th November 2011
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dbv8 said:
Alexdaredevilz said:
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frown below the belt!
Yeah your right, sorry beer

dbv8

8,676 posts

250 months

Thursday 10th November 2011
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Alexdaredevilz said:
Yeah your right, sorry beer
hippy

taylormj4

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296 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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dbv8 said:
Alexdaredevilz said:
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frown below the belt!
The spacer should be below the belt ?
Shirley not Mr. Striker.
getmecoat

taylormj4

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296 months

Friday 30th March 2012
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So the source of the drive train slack or clonking has finally been solved thanks to Stuart and the team at Forza West. thumbup

Part of the problem was diff bushes as suspected but the main clunking, the one that became apparent after a clutch change (that was done by a local garage) was the flywheel bolts.

Yes, the clutch had not been bolted to the flywheel tightly !

Local garage could not trace the source of the problem and suspected the drive shaft splines were worn. Hmmmm. rolleyes Not good.

Car now much nicer to drive, still shunts slightly now and again but no clonking. Just glad it wasn't the gearbox. Had been avoiding using full throttle in case I destroyed something in the drive-train. I guess fuel consumption will be poorer now though biggrindriving

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,466 posts

195 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Glad it's sorted!

Mine is too. It was simply diff bolts in my case. They probably relaxed as they've bedded into the powder coating over the eighteen months since the rebuild.

Bassfiend

5,530 posts

280 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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My driveline shunting was reduced to the point of no longer being an issue by renewing the CV joints on the driveshafts. biggrin

Phil

SILICONEKID340HP

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261 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Bassfiend said:
My driveline shunting was reduced to the point of no longer being an issue by renewing the CV joints on the driveshafts. biggrin

Phil
Is that a big job? what are the parts needed to referb the drive shafts and cost.

Edited by SILICONEKID340HP on Saturday 31st March 11:32

pk500

1,975 posts

242 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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I put new ends on my drive shafts this morning stopped the knocking noise !

pk500

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242 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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SILICONEKID340HP said:
a couple of hours and £120 for the 4 ends!

Is that a big job? what are the parts needed to referb the drive shafts and cost.

Edited by SILICONEKID340HP on Saturday 31st March 11:32

SILICONEKID340HP

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261 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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OK its £120 to do both ! can you give me a link ..its it worth changing gaitors or any other parts ..

cheers

so called

9,160 posts

239 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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I have the same clunking. Had it on my first Chimaera but didnt fix it but realy want to sort it out on this one. Spoils the driving enjoyment.
Things to check over Easter. Thanks chaps.

Tony.