Taking a leak on hard shoulder
Taking a leak on hard shoulder
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blademan

Original Poster:

493 posts

260 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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This has happened to me a couple of times.
Was caught in a mega traffic jam a few years ago whilst travelling to a course.
Loads of people around but I simply couldn't wait any longer.
Walked down a slope, and was as discrete as poss, but what would have happened if someone took offence and reported me.

P.S Imagine my relief ( of conscience ) when someone else did the same thing right next to me.

Whoozit

3,860 posts

291 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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IIRC, it's completely legal as long as you're peeing on your NSR wheel with the relevant legislation dating back to the horse and cart. Or is that one of those urban myths?

wanty1974

3,704 posts

270 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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I thought that was just for Hackney Carriage drivers?

Fer

7,762 posts

302 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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Having been an unwilling participant of a 20 vehicle RTC on the M4 a few years ago and finding my bladder a little strained I was advised to go to the bottom of the embankment for a whizz.

The BiB later informed me that accidents tend to have that effect on people.

t-c

198 posts

280 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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You could use the argument that motorists are allowed to stop on the hard shoulder in the case of an emergency. That in theory could be classed as an emergency.

I found a young couple parked up on a police O/P many years ago at junction 8/9 of the M4 (I wanted to park up and have 40 winks ) Anyway, I approached this car and the occupants were hard at it like little bunny rabbits. I knocked on the window and said that the hard shoulder was for emergencies only, he said "This was an emergency" so after I had picked myself up of the floor from laughing I sent him on his way with a ticking off, after all he probably had a valid point!

Nightmare

5,277 posts

306 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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t-c said:
I knocked on the window and said that the hard shoulder was for emergencies only, he said "This was an emergency" so after I had picked myself up of the floor from laughing I sent him on his way with a ticking off, after all he probably had a valid point!

LMAO - genius!

I would sincerely hope in any case of someone having a wee, that assuming they hadnt left their car somewhere really stupid, then a decent plod would use their discretion.......

shnozz

29,934 posts

293 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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Nightmare said:

t-c said:
I knocked on the window and said that the hard shoulder was for emergencies only, he said "This was an emergency" so after I had picked myself up of the floor from laughing I sent him on his way with a ticking off, after all he probably had a valid point!


LMAO - genius!

I would sincerely hope in any case of someone having a wee, that assuming they hadnt left their car somewhere really stupid, then a decent plod would use their discretion.......


I wouldnt be so sure. I received a large bollocking and a threat to arrest me for taking a leak about 5 yards into some bushes just gone midnight in a rural area.

and I didnt have a car to park anywhere potentially dangerous....

Nightmare

5,277 posts

306 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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shnozz said:

I wouldnt be so sure. I received a large bollocking and a threat to arrest me for taking a leak about 5 yards into some bushes just gone midnight in a rural area.

and I didnt have a car to park anywhere potentially dangerous....


Well if a lady complains about you taking a leak into her bush Im not surprised you got told off!

That is pretty damn sad really...maybe it was one of the 'young and eager' cops mentioned on another thread? Or maybe it was somewhere ther had been loads of complaints about! Do you serially leak in bushses?

streaky

19,311 posts

271 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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wanty1974 said:
I thought that was just for Hackney Carriage drivers?
Reportedly (but not confirmed):

1) It is legal for a male to urinate in public, as long it is on the rear wheel of his motor vehicle and his right hand is on the vehicle.

2) A pregnant woman can legally relieve herself anywhere she wants. But more importantly , she can, upon request, pee in a Policeman's helmet.

3) Dating back to the days before the provision of "cabman's shelters" and because they were not allowed to leave the horse(s) unattended, a London cabbie could relieve himself (or herself) in the gutter provided a police officer was standing alongside them. Apparently it is not too long ago that the Met Police issued a letter advising cabbies against this practice.

Streaky

blademan

Original Poster:

493 posts

260 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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Nightmare said:

shnozz said:

I wouldnt be so sure. I received a large bollocking and a threat to arrest me for taking a leak about 5 yards into some bushes just gone midnight in a rural area.

and I didnt have a car to park anywhere potentially dangerous....



Well if a lady complains about you taking a leak into her bush Im not surprised you got told off!

That is pretty damn sad really...maybe it was one of the 'young and eager' cops mentioned on another thread? Or maybe it was somewhere ther had been loads of complaints about! Do you serially leak in bushses?
Serial bush leaker.....good one!!

shnozz

29,934 posts

293 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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Nightmare said:

shnozz said:

I wouldnt be so sure. I received a large bollocking and a threat to arrest me for taking a leak about 5 yards into some bushes just gone midnight in a rural area.

and I didnt have a car to park anywhere potentially dangerous....



Well if a lady complains about you taking a leak into her bush Im not surprised you got told off!

That is pretty damn sad really...maybe it was one of the 'young and eager' cops mentioned on another thread? Or maybe it was somewhere ther had been loads of complaints about! Do you serially leak in bushses?


I am not a serial leaker

It was on the walk back from a cricket ground and the cold air hit after a few beers. Crept into some public park space by the road and halfway through me relieving myself the old bill (who were sat down the road looking out for drink drivers coming out of the cricket ground) came and did the "'ello, 'ello, 'ello" thing.

Wan't a young and eager cop either.

Funnily enough we established afterwards (as it happens I am a lawyer) that it is also legal for a man to take a pee if the policeman shrouds him. The irony of me walking up to the bib before i wanted a leak and asking "can you shroud me with your fluorescent yellow jacket as I take a leak"....

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

266 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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IIRC Streaky the offence of urinating in a Public Place is the result of a By-Law and what you can do or not do highlighted therein.

Just a thought, if doing in on the hardshoulder, questionable if it can be classed as an emergency as there is a school of thought that Emergency only applies to something occurring one you get on the M Way. A P and tiredness slow build up. (Stones J.M)

Also the manner in which the act is done and complained off could lead to enquiry under the various Indecency Statutes for Indecent Exposure.

I ignore Damage to the Highway through the high acid content also depositing noxious substance to be on Highway under Highways Act.

Re the Met bit - you taking the p155 ?

Whilst on this subject, light relief, used to Police the away Supporters at one of our third Div Clubs. End of game problem keeping the tribes apart, so to help and ensure speedy departure stationed one of the Mounted Branch at conflict point. Rider had a knack at crucial time of getting the nag to drop its hose pipe and let fly. Result.

DVD



>> Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Wednesday 23 June 16:17

WildCat

8,369 posts

265 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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streaky said:


2) A pregnant woman can legally relieve herself anywhere she wants. But more importantly , she can, upon request, pee in a Policeman's helmet.

Streaky


Kitten No 5 is due November/December -ish. Perhaps ....?

Ach! He will take the 'ump again.


Er - how do you ask politely for this service? (Paid me taxes for it)

Dibble

13,254 posts

262 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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WildCat said:
Er - how do you ask politely for this service? (Paid me taxes for it)
I'm due up to Windermere for some rest day camping (oo-er missus) with the shift in July. Mail me, I'll bring a spare hat...

>> Edited by Dibble on Wednesday 23 June 16:40

D-Angle

4,468 posts

264 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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quinny said:
Don't take a spare hat,

Take Brunstroms

Andy.
Better still, go along to his little roadshow and wait till he's asking questions at the end...

I should think that there are few BiB who would come after you for this, as long as you had made a reasonable effort to make sure no-one could see you. After all, I can imagine the conversation now:
"Police, stop!"
"I can't!"

Reminds me of a mate who thought he'd be fine taking a leak in a field in the middle of nowhere. No-one for miles around, and he went behind a tree for good measure. No way anyone could see him, he thought, until an Intercity 125 trundled past...

dorifter

103 posts

263 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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my mate was caught having a dump,imagine the embarasment

WildCat

8,369 posts

265 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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The cousin in A&E - he was just taking a slash when .... incoming customer.

Had interesting moment in "crash" - in his hurry to save the man's life ..... he did not do up to his flies properly! And another one as junior in A&E years ago - skirt tucked in knickers!

Fortunately for both of them - patients (both heart attacks) survived!


Cheers Dibble - appreciate your kind offer!

Would prefer to use Brainstorm's though - provided he does not empty it before placing on head!

Streetcop

5,907 posts

260 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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For me it would depend on these factors:

1) Whether the driver had passed any service stations early up the motorway.

2) How far out of the public's view he was. ( I don't like the stood at the side of road with legs spread wide look...better to get out of the way, into the trees etc)

3) If the vehicle had pulled as far as possible to the left and it's hazard warning lights were flashing.

4) Attitude of the driver.

At best verbal warning and dangers of the motorway explained. Next would be fixed penalty for stopping on hardshoulder. Finally report on summons to court. (Reserved for professional twerps)

WildCat

8,369 posts

265 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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Why am I thinking of Rowan Atkinson and Griff Rhys Jones all of a sudden!



Streetcop said:
For me it would depend on these factors:

1) Whether the driver had passed any service stations early up the motorway.

2) How far out of the public's view he was. ( I don't like the stood at the side of road with legs spread wide look...better to get out of the way, into the trees etc)


Not sure I would know where to look!

[quote=streetcop:
3) If the vehicle had pulled as far as possible to the left and it's hazard warning lights were flashing.



streetcop said:

4) Attitude of the driver.


Handcuffs for aggressive "Once ya start ya can't stop! and p""" orf!" and what about the "Magnum approach" I've started so I'll finish!" Or even "Just filling up me screeen wosh Offisher!"


Errm! And would you be prepared to lend a cute puss cat in distress your helmet?

gone

6,649 posts

285 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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WildCat said:

Errm! And would you be prepared to lend a cute puss cat in distress your helmet?


What? To piss in? I don't think so madam