Selling first car privately - few Q's
Selling first car privately - few Q's
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jimxms

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1,635 posts

180 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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Normally in the past I'd always trade in my car when it came to buying a new one. It just seemed so much easier than trying to sell privately (so excuse the dumb questions).

However now I've found my new car from a private seller, so P/X isn't an option and I'm going to have to sell my Lexus LS430 barge privately.

As soon as I get my new car, can I simply transfer the insurance over to it and leave the Lexus 'uninsured' if it is on private property? If so, how does this work if someone wants to take it out for a test drive?

I've also just put a new tax disc on there too. Should I leave this on there (might it sell better?) or get a refund for it?

surveyor

18,541 posts

204 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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You will find for just a few £ that your insurance company will be happy to cover both cars for a while.

nonuts

15,855 posts

249 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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If it's for the 'right price' get it on the barge thread on here, will be sold in no time!

MX7

7,902 posts

194 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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If selling it yourself isn't appealing, you could try a local independent dealer who might do it for you Sale or Return.

jimxms

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180 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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surveyor said:
You will find for just a few £ that your insurance company will be happy to cover both cars for a while.
I'm not so sure. It costs me a fortune as it is, and the new car is 4.2 supercharged so I have a feeling they might want to rape my bottom?

FreeLitres

6,120 posts

197 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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Recently sold my 3.0 X-Type.

New car arrived after the car was sold, so I simply transferred my "current" insurance to my new car.

My insurers had said that I could have taken out some additional temp insurance out on the Jag if it was still not sold by the time the new car arrives.

jimxms

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180 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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nonuts said:
If it's for the 'right price' get it on the barge thread on here, will be sold in no time!
£5k is my goal. I bought it for £6k a few weeks ago, but its just TOO much of a barge for me. I need something semi-barge-like.

U T

47,508 posts

170 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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You cannot cancel your insurance and keep it taxed. If it's taxed, it must be insured, even if it's not on the road. If you want to cancel the insurance, you have to sorn it.

Jimmy No Hands

5,063 posts

176 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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surveyor said:
You will find for just a few £ that your insurance company will be happy to cover both cars for a while.
This would be ideal for me as I don't particularly want to SORN my main car just for 2 months.. wonder how much extra they would charge me for a few months use of a banger. (Elephant)

jimxms

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180 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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U T said:
You cannot cancel your insurance and keep it taxed. If it's taxed, it must be insured, even if it's not on the road. If you want to cancel the insurance, you have to sorn it.
And if I sorn it, I'll have to sell it for 1/2 the price because it wont be test-drivable?

mrmr96

13,736 posts

224 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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jimxms said:
surveyor said:
You will find for just a few £ that your insurance company will be happy to cover both cars for a while.
I'm not so sure. It costs me a fortune as it is, and the new car is 4.2 supercharged so I have a feeling they might want to rape my bottom?
Ring them, I bet they will. It's what I do whenever I change care privately and I've never had an issue.

Basically you change the car on the policy to the new one, then add the old one back on for 14 days for a fee. If it's still unsold then you can extend another 14 days. Dunno how long you can keep doing that, but pro-rata the price is much more costly than a full year's policy, so they have the facility but the price encourages you to get rid of the old car fairly soon.

DanielC4GP

2,792 posts

171 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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As others have said you can't keep a car taxed if it has no insurance. If you do you'll get a nice automatic fine through the post from the DVLA.

Saying that even if it is taxed for people to test drive insurance companies won't allow them to drive other cars third party unless it is already insured by the owner in the first place.

As I see it you either keep it insured along with your new car or you sell it first and then look for another car.

Edited by DanielC4GP on Friday 11th November 15:12

Zerotonine

1,171 posts

194 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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You learn something new every day, was about to cry 'bks!' to the sorn must be declared if not insured, but I checked and that is true.

humpbackmaniac

1,898 posts

261 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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Zerotonine said:
You learn something new every day, was about to cry 'bks!' to the sorn must be declared if not insured, but I checked and that is true.
You checked BEFORE calling bks on something? You're in the wrong forum buddy! smile

Zerotonine

1,171 posts

194 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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Well I can't spell, type properly, do not own an MX5, do not drink red bull, not a company director, etc etc, I suppose I should make some sort of effort...

richardxjr

7,561 posts

230 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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nonuts said:
If it's for the 'right price' get it on the barge thread on here, will be sold in no time!
yes

We love 430s over there!


jimxms

Original Poster:

1,635 posts

180 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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richardxjr said:
yes

We love 430s over there!
Couldn't point a fella in the direction of said thread could ya?

Thx for all the replies guys.

rb5er

11,657 posts

192 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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DanielC4GP said:
As others have said you can't keep a car taxed if it has no insurance. If you do you'll get a nice automatic fine through the post from the DVLA.
No you really wont. I had a car with tax and insurance, swapped the insurance over to a new car, tax expired 3weeks later, 3weeks after that i reinsured it and retaxed it with just a reminder sent from the dvla.

onesickpuppy

2,648 posts

177 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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Zerotonine said:
Well I can't spell, type properly, do not own an MX5, do not drink red bull, not a company director, etc etc, I suppose I should make some sort of effort...
You are doing it wrong, you're not supposed to drink Red Bull!

Zwoelf

25,867 posts

226 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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rb5er said:
DanielC4GP said:
As others have said you can't keep a car taxed if it has no insurance. If you do you'll get a nice automatic fine through the post from the DVLA.
No you really wont. I had a car with tax and insurance, swapped the insurance over to a new car, tax expired 3weeks later, 3weeks after that i reinsured it and retaxed it with just a reminder sent from the dvla.
http://www.mib.org.uk/Motor+Insurance+Database/en/...

They're being pretty lenient for now as it only changed earlier this year (16th May IIRC). I expect they'll firm up in due course.

Anyway, OP leave the tax on the car as it's worth something to potential buyers when considering similarly priced examples that may not be taxed.

If however you do reclaim the tax, SORN the vehicle and cancel your own insurance for the duration, then the only insurance that will be in force generally (as ever, specifics vary with policies) will be third party liability cover if the person driving who holds that policy on their own vehicle.

So if they write it off, you get nothing for the value of the vehicle. Some policies may extend their fully comprehensive cover to FC on any vehicle with the owner's permission, but that often requires that owner to also have insurance in force. Keeping your own car insured until the new owner drives it away is simplest and safest all round IMO.

I hope it doesn't come to be the case for you, but be aware that people may often have absolutely no conscience about wasting your time. Be mindful of scammers too. If something sounds or feels "iffy" to you, it usually is - does no harm to ask here if you're uncertain.

Good luck with the sale, we'll keep a look out for it in the barge threads. biggrin



Edited by Zwoelf on Friday 11th November 17:28