£130 to replace a pipe, have a read of this!!!!
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Audi A3 2.0 tdi (07)
Ex wife has been quoted £130 for a fitting of a fuel return pipe to filter. This was because a small amount of fuel was leaking from the non filter end. I think what had happened is that the clip had rubbed. However, a quick bodge was to pull the pipe off, cut offending bit off, and re secure. No problems however, only a temporary fix....
So, she has booked it into the garage who generally are pretty good, even the mechanic has no idea why he has to book it in...the pipe is £69
Total cost £130!!!! For fitting a 5" rubber pipe
Seems a bit odd to me.
Any audiphiles out there that may have knowledge, why does it need to be 'booked in' for an hour, depressurise and repressurise fuel system??? It really beats me.....
Thanks in advance.
Mike.
Ex wife has been quoted £130 for a fitting of a fuel return pipe to filter. This was because a small amount of fuel was leaking from the non filter end. I think what had happened is that the clip had rubbed. However, a quick bodge was to pull the pipe off, cut offending bit off, and re secure. No problems however, only a temporary fix....
So, she has booked it into the garage who generally are pretty good, even the mechanic has no idea why he has to book it in...the pipe is £69
Total cost £130!!!! For fitting a 5" rubber pipeSeems a bit odd to me.
Any audiphiles out there that may have knowledge, why does it need to be 'booked in' for an hour, depressurise and repressurise fuel system??? It really beats me.....
Thanks in advance.
Mike.
As a guess.
Some time back someone had the pipe changed, a few miles later their car suffered some sort of engine failure based on an air lock in the fuel system.
Audi was billed some warranty money, courtesy car money or somesuch.
To prevent it, Audi adjusted the service manual to have the fuel system re-pressurised whenever anyone messes with this pipe.
Some time back someone had the pipe changed, a few miles later their car suffered some sort of engine failure based on an air lock in the fuel system.
Audi was billed some warranty money, courtesy car money or somesuch.
To prevent it, Audi adjusted the service manual to have the fuel system re-pressurised whenever anyone messes with this pipe.
Snowboy said:
As a guess.
Some time back someone had the pipe changed, a few miles later their car suffered some sort of engine failure based on an air lock in the fuel system.
Audi was billed some warranty money, courtesy car money or somesuch.
To prevent it, Audi adjusted the service manual to have the fuel system re-pressurised whenever anyone messes with this pipe.
Some time back someone had the pipe changed, a few miles later their car suffered some sort of engine failure based on an air lock in the fuel system.
Audi was billed some warranty money, courtesy car money or somesuch.
To prevent it, Audi adjusted the service manual to have the fuel system re-pressurised whenever anyone messes with this pipe.
Snowboy said:
As a guess.
Some time back someone had the pipe changed, a few miles later their car suffered some sort of engine failure based on an air lock in the fuel system.
Audi was billed some warranty money, courtesy car money or somesuch.
To prevent it, Audi adjusted the service manual to have the fuel system re-pressurised whenever anyone messes with this pipe.
Probably not far from the truth there snowboy. Really irritates me this does...Some time back someone had the pipe changed, a few miles later their car suffered some sort of engine failure based on an air lock in the fuel system.
Audi was billed some warranty money, courtesy car money or somesuch.
To prevent it, Audi adjusted the service manual to have the fuel system re-pressurised whenever anyone messes with this pipe.
My guess would be more along the lines of...
Part £69
Labour - 0.4hrs@£100ph = £40
Total = £109 + Vat = £130.80
As for depressurising and re-pressurising the system - No such thing. Common rail diesels open teh injectors following engine shut down to depressurise the fuel system, and the high pressure pump will generate system pressure during cranking. The fuel return is on the low pressure side anyway, so wouldn't cause a problem regardless.
Note: 0.4 hrs is a pure guess, as is the hourly rate, but I'd hazzard a guess that neither are too far out, especially the book time. It's 24 minutes, but most manufacturer times include either 6 or 12 minutes for driving the car in and out of the workshop
ETA: I've made the assumption that this is an Audi dealer - Hence £100 ph
Also.... You're complaining about the fitting costs, but not about the £69 for a 5" pipe
Part £69
Labour - 0.4hrs@£100ph = £40
Total = £109 + Vat = £130.80
As for depressurising and re-pressurising the system - No such thing. Common rail diesels open teh injectors following engine shut down to depressurise the fuel system, and the high pressure pump will generate system pressure during cranking. The fuel return is on the low pressure side anyway, so wouldn't cause a problem regardless.
Note: 0.4 hrs is a pure guess, as is the hourly rate, but I'd hazzard a guess that neither are too far out, especially the book time. It's 24 minutes, but most manufacturer times include either 6 or 12 minutes for driving the car in and out of the workshop
ETA: I've made the assumption that this is an Audi dealer - Hence £100 ph
Also.... You're complaining about the fitting costs, but not about the £69 for a 5" pipe
Edited by Superhoop on Monday 14th November 11:08
Superhoop said:
My guess would be more along the lines of...
Part £69
Labour - 0.4hrs@£100ph = £40
Total = £109 + Vat = £130.80
As for depressurising and re-pressurising the system - No such thing. Common rail diesels open teh injectors following engine shut down to depressurise the fuel system, and the high pressure pump will generate system pressure during cranking. The fuel return is on the low pressure side anyway, so wouldn't cause a problem regardless.
Note: 0.4 hrs is a pure guess, as is the hourly rate, but I'd hazzard a guess that neither are too far out, especially the book time. It's 24 minutes, but most manufacturer times include either 6 or 12 minutes for driving the car in and out of the workshop
Think you have hit the nail on the head there, mounts up a bit doesn't it....Part £69
Labour - 0.4hrs@£100ph = £40
Total = £109 + Vat = £130.80
As for depressurising and re-pressurising the system - No such thing. Common rail diesels open teh injectors following engine shut down to depressurise the fuel system, and the high pressure pump will generate system pressure during cranking. The fuel return is on the low pressure side anyway, so wouldn't cause a problem regardless.
Note: 0.4 hrs is a pure guess, as is the hourly rate, but I'd hazzard a guess that neither are too far out, especially the book time. It's 24 minutes, but most manufacturer times include either 6 or 12 minutes for driving the car in and out of the workshop
Looks like a perfectly reasonable charge to me - have you any idea how much it costs to run a business these days - you expect charity or a freebee? If it's so easy and quick, fit it yourself? I predict you'll find everything breaks, everything is inaccessible, you'll always need the one tool you haven't got, and after 5 hours of filth, bleeding, and cursing, you'll think the garage is very reasonable indeed. You’re buying their expertise, experience, training, time, tools, wages, liability insurance, rent, business rates………………
silverback mike said:
Yes I gathered that, but after doing lots of engine work on my own cars, I fail to see why it's that difficult and costs £130. Ta for the input though 
Its time, is it simple to change, does anything else need removing and don't forget replacing once fitted? Don’t assume the guy is trying to rip you off just because you don't know what is involved in changing it...Don't be surprised if you get flippant answers to pointless questions, you're asking the wrong people, why come here and ask when you should be asking the guy that is doing the work??
cheesesliceking said:
Its time, is it simple to change, does anything else need removing and don't forget replacing once fitted? Don’t assume the guy is trying to rip you off just because you don't know what is involved in changing it...
Don't be surprised if you get flippant answers to pointless questions, you're asking the wrong people, why come here and ask when you should be asking the guy that is doing the work??
Ouch, easy tiger Don't be surprised if you get flippant answers to pointless questions, you're asking the wrong people, why come here and ask when you should be asking the guy that is doing the work??
it's an easy job, honestly is, which is why it seemed expensive.....And also, it's her car, so was just checking it out.
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