Overtaking on the inside ... with a twist
Discussion
OK. Here's a real-life situation (at least in regard to the raw scenario):
A one-way street comprising two lanes; about half-way along the street is a pedestrian crossing with zig-zag lines. Traffic on the right-hand side of the street generally moves more slowly than that on the left-hand side. Many times, that speed is merely a crawl.
Now, can one overtake on the left-hand side in the zig-zag area?
Of course, "common sense" says that there should be no problem (subject to sight-lines and no pedestrians actually crossing ... but, as we all know, "common sense" is no longer a requirement for the magistrates who would adjuducate if you were brought up before them.
An academic question, but an interesting one to debate. BiB/lawyers?
Streaky
A one-way street comprising two lanes; about half-way along the street is a pedestrian crossing with zig-zag lines. Traffic on the right-hand side of the street generally moves more slowly than that on the left-hand side. Many times, that speed is merely a crawl.
Now, can one overtake on the left-hand side in the zig-zag area?
Of course, "common sense" says that there should be no problem (subject to sight-lines and no pedestrians actually crossing ... but, as we all know, "common sense" is no longer a requirement for the magistrates who would adjuducate if you were brought up before them.
An academic question, but an interesting one to debate. BiB/lawyers?
Streaky
Your turn on the podium Streaky
Go to
http://tinyurl.com/2wm6p
Regs 16,18,19,20 Schedule 2 and Diagrams 4, and 5
Would seem on reaching the zig zags you should remain on station with the rear of the car on the right until crossing traversed?.
DVD
PS. When you reply please advise what these blue markers are that appear from time to time - PH(NUmber) and O/T against Outlaw (On Trial?)
>> Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Thursday 24th June 07:54
Go to
http://tinyurl.com/2wm6p
Regs 16,18,19,20 Schedule 2 and Diagrams 4, and 5
Would seem on reaching the zig zags you should remain on station with the rear of the car on the right until crossing traversed?.
DVD
PS. When you reply please advise what these blue markers are that appear from time to time - PH(NUmber) and O/T against Outlaw (On Trial?)
>> Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Thursday 24th June 07:54
Dwight VanDriver said:Unaccustomed as I am to ...
Your turn on the podium Streaky
Go to
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/2wm6p">http://tinyurl.com/2wm6p</a>
Regs 16,18,19,20 Schedule 2 and Diagrams 4, and 5
Would seem on reaching the zig zags you should remain on station with the rear of the car on the right until crossing traversed?.
DVD
PS. When you reply please advise what these blue markers are that appear from time to time - PH(NUmber) and O/T against Outlaw (On Trial?)
My point was precisely that about the zig-zags. Lawfully, then, you can only proceed at the speed of the vehicle alongside you (in this case on your right) until your vehicle is clear of the zig-zags.
Which brings us back to my point about common-sense!
Streaky
PS - DVD: I believe the "O/T" means (and therefore I use it to mean) "Off-topic" - S
Highway Code (can't remember the Rule No):
says something like "You must not overtake on the approach to a pedestrian crossing" - again, common sense says you can but you have to be helluva careful, I would suggest, that nobody crosses in front of the car you are passing, because if you hit them, you're probably nicked!
says something like "You must not overtake on the approach to a pedestrian crossing" - again, common sense says you can but you have to be helluva careful, I would suggest, that nobody crosses in front of the car you are passing, because if you hit them, you're probably nicked!
Dwight VanDriver said:
>>>>>>>Which brings us back to my point about common-sense! >>>>>>
Cheeezus......you want F.1 starts/overtakes approaching a Pelican crossing.
Bang
Mamma dead.
Camera?
Give over S....
DVD
Give over yourself. You don't even have to read between the lines to appreciate that this was a comment about common-sense. If one followed the letter of the law, two lines of traffic would be slow-moving/stationary when only one is actually obstructed. As the crossing in question is a Pelican, the lights control both motorist and (supposedly) pedestrian traffic.
And in response to someone's comment about a "dual carriageway", I said it was a two lane, one-way street. I was actually describing the very common situation in Downing Street in the middle of Farnham, Surrey.
Streaky
Edited to add reference to : www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=10&t=107919 (and subsequently to fix URL) - S
>> Edited by streaky on Saturday 26th June 05:23
streaky said:
I was actually describing the very common situation in Downing Street in the middle of Farnham, Surrey.
Streaky
I know exactly where you mean. I believe that part of our role when driving is to proceed in a manner which facilititates traffic flow and progress. Should you blindly follow the rules posted, and treat it as an 'overtake', then you'd grind Farnham to a halt. Personally I trreat it as becoming a separate lane at that point and do whatever is sensible. I have been followed by plod once doing this and they certainly did it too!
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