535d M-Sport (Remapped) or 545i M-Sport (poss remapped)
535d M-Sport (Remapped) or 545i M-Sport (poss remapped)
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jimxms

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1,635 posts

191 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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I'm at a crossroads right now. I want an E60 5 Series with the M-Sport package, and I want it to be as quick and nimble as possible. I've seen plenty of 535d's on eBay that are already re-mapped with ridiculous torque figures, but I'm wondering how they fair compared to a stock 545i?

Truth be told I may remap the 545i at a later date if I got one, but the before/after figures are nowhere near as impressive as the 535d.

Oh, I should also mention that I don't give a crap about MPG. It's all about performance/handling/reliability.


Edited by jimxms on Monday 14th November 14:28

Zod

35,295 posts

289 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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E60. Not sure there's any point trying to remap a 545i - it's an N/A petrol engine.

jimxms

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Monday 14th November 2011
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Zod said:
E60. Not sure there's any point trying to remap a 545i - it's an N/A petrol engine.
Sorry, yeh E60 not E90 lol. BMW n00b here.

From what I've read a 545i remap gives about 20bhp...so hardly life changing.

turboman786

1,131 posts

218 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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See youtube....theres an old topgear where a 535d goes against a 545i.....

545i wins by a small margin......but the 535d was standard.......

jimxms

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Monday 14th November 2011
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turboman786 said:
See youtube....theres an old topgear where a 535d goes against a 545i.....

545i wins by a small margin......but the 535d was standard.......
Cheers I'll look it up. I suppose the only other thing to consider is what the 535d sounds like. I had a drive of a 545i with M Sport exhaust at the weekend and it made me happy in the pants when going wot. Obviously the diesel isn't going to sound anywhere near the same. But does it sound like a boring diesel, or have BMW beefed it up?

turboman786

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218 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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jimxms said:
Cheers I'll look it up. I suppose the only other thing to consider is what the 535d sounds like. I had a drive of a 545i with M Sport exhaust at the weekend and it made me happy in the pants when going wot. Obviously the diesel isn't going to sound anywhere near the same. But does it sound like a boring diesel, or have BMW beefed it up?
I had a 57 plate 535d M sport, and it did sound quite dieselly.....although at cruising speeds it is very quiet....

All internet jesting aside, the 535d when remapped is a very quick car indeed....get an PCI one with the sports transmission option which tightens up the suspecion and steering, and it is a truely rapid back road burner...I really liked mine, and kind of regret selling it now...

jimxms

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Monday 14th November 2011
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turboman786 said:
I had a 57 plate 535d M sport, and it did sound quite dieselly.....although at cruising speeds it is very quiet....

All internet jesting aside, the 535d when remapped is a very quick car indeed....get an PCI one with the sports transmission option which tightens up the suspecion and steering, and it is a truely rapid back road burner...I really liked mine, and kind of regret selling it now...
Thx for the info mate. I think I really need to go test drive one then. I like the _idea_ of having one, but this will be my first diesel so I guess I need to see how much the lack of a v8 noise bothers me.

vinnie83

3,367 posts

224 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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jimxms said:
Thx for the info mate. I think I really need to go test drive one then. I like the _idea_ of having one, but this will be my first diesel so I guess I need to see how much the lack of a v8 noise bothers me.
You will NEVER get anything like the V8 noise with the 535d, but you don't get a huge amount of the diesel clatter. It has a smooth inline 6 sound when you put your foot down.


christer

2,804 posts

282 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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I had and would go for a 550 - unless you are doing megamiles.

jimxms

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Tuesday 15th November 2011
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christer said:
I had and would go for a 550 - unless you are doing megamiles.
550's seem like rocking horse poo and when they do turn up they command a premium. The 545's can be had quite cheap, and the occasional 535d can be seen under 9k (with big miles).

Wish I could hear some clips of a 535d revving. I like the idea of being able to tune it past the bhp of the 545i and with masses more torque.

martin mrt

3,884 posts

232 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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My mates father has an early E60 545i with some rather tasty options, and it's a truly fabulous car, but i don't find the noise THAT much better than the 535d as the E60 cabin isso well insulated you struggle to hear much of the engine noise at all so for that reason alone I'm out, 535d for me

That very same 545i in a rolling start on a private road (genuinely) from 50mph to a certain point some 1.5 miles from the 50mph start point was a good 15mph slower than my first 335d before it was remapped.

IIRC the 335d got to 155 indicated and the 545i made it to 140

jimxms

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Wednesday 16th November 2011
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The only other thing is reliability I suppose. How do the 535d turbos hold up? Could I buy a 100k miler without any worries?

Also do they get clogged up? I forget the exact phrase, but a few of my Lexus diesel friends have mentioned loosing power over time.

SteveS Cup

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191 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Is there no 535i option!?

jimxms

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Wednesday 16th November 2011
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SteveS Cup said:
Is there no 535i option!?
Depends how generous you're feeling?