Has anyone ever tried these Ceramic disc for their PCCB car?
Has anyone ever tried these Ceramic disc for their PCCB car?
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Gibbo205

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3,572 posts

238 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Hi there


My front ceramics will need replacing shortly if Porsche don't replace under warranty and as such I am looking at options. The reason I mention warranty is the disc have only done 35,000 miles as such I am going to speak to Porsche to see if they can help as they clearly say they should last far far longer and as such I have to consider maybe main were faulty.

If they don't get replaced I've found these:-
http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/pt66_1646_-cma81-cmo...


From speaking to Design911 they say they work with the PCCB pads and should last just as long as PCCB disc do and are dust free, the only dis-advantage is they are heavier.

So those who have had to replace their PCCB disc, what did you use, has anyone tried these?

GT3-RS

1,085 posts

250 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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they're not Ceramic......they are steel thats for sure (high Carbon Steel rotors)and I'd pass

Gibbo205

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3,572 posts

238 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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GT3-RS said:
they're not Ceramic......they are steel thats for sure (high Carbon Steel rotors)and I'd pass
Yep they are hybrids, iron core, ceramic coating and are compatible and to be used with original PCCB pads. They are supposedly designed and superior for supersport and won't just explode when worn out.

If they good they seem an option, but it is quite worrying that no one seems to have used/tried them.

Edited by Gibbo205 on Monday 14th November 16:54

Kidhaa

398 posts

238 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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I got my discs/pads replaced and they cracked after just 4months and 3k miles

They told me in a polite way to fack off... ps my first discs lasted for 17k miles and 3years!!! that included track days



fioran0

2,410 posts

203 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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one of the great pieces of misinformation/misinterpretation over PCCB is that they last forever. i assume that this stemmed from the original press releases where it was mentioned that they would last the life of the vehicle but who knows.
PCCB are lasting about 3-4 sets of pads give or take with anything other than gentle driving. now for some folks 4 sets of pads will see the car almost to its end, for those doing track days it will see you get a few under your belt and then need new discs.

PCCB last longer than the stock metal discs, and slightly longer than a set of metal race rotors. the added bonus over the steel is fade resistance and ofcourse weight.


Gibbo205

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3,572 posts

238 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Kidhaa said:
I got my discs/pads replaced and they cracked after just 4months and 3k miles

They told me in a polite way to fack off... ps my first discs lasted for 17k miles and 3years!!! that included track days
Which disc and pads was it which cracked after just 4 months / 3000 miles? Your original Porsche ones or the ones from Design911?

Kidhaa

398 posts

238 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Gibbo205 said:
Which disc and pads was it which cracked after just 4 months / 3000 miles? Your original Porsche ones or the ones from Design911?
I had the Steels on a Mk1 997 gt3, original Porsche parts supplied fitted and fked by them smile, just met with a barrage of gobsteee.

I did ask for replacement ceramics for my RS 4.0, design 911 have performance friction ceramics as replacements, but from info i got the stock pads dont work well with their performance friction discs.

Dr S

5,159 posts

257 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Kidhaa said:
I did ask for replacement ceramics for my RS 4.0, design 911 have performance friction ceramics as replacements, but from info i got the stock pads dont work well with their performance friction discs.
Why would you need replacement discs on a brand new car, if I may ask?

Gibbo205

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3,572 posts

238 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Kidhaa said:
I had the Steels on a Mk1 997 gt3, original Porsche parts supplied fitted and fked by them smile, just met with a barrage of gobsteee.

I did ask for replacement ceramics for my RS 4.0, design 911 have performance friction ceramics as replacements, but from info i got the stock pads dont work well with their performance friction discs.
The PF disc Design 911 have are not ceramic coated from what I can tell and definetely won't work with PCCB pads as they are not designed too. You need to buy suitable pads from either PF or Pagid.

So the disc I've linked too you've not tried those ones yet then?
Oh and you have my dream car (RS 4.0) biggrin

Kidhaa

398 posts

238 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Dr S said:
Why would you need replacement discs on a brand new car, if I may ask?
They didn’t need replacing.... Just the horror stories i heard on the replacement cost of ceramic disc, so I was going to take the ceramics off and have them replaced by performance friction ceramic discs. But in the end decided not to.

My Mk1 gt3 disc and pads were replaced after 17k miles

Kidhaa

398 posts

238 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Gibbo205 said:
The PF disc Design 911 have are not ceramic coated from what I can tell and definetely won't work with PCCB pads as they are not designed too. You need to buy suitable pads from either PF or Pagid.

So the disc I've linked too you've not tried those ones yet then?
Oh and you have my dream car (RS 4.0) biggrin
not going to bother replacing, opc said they have improved the ceramics from 2008? I’ll just believe whatever gob stee they tell !!

scarebus

858 posts

202 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Oh great news for 2005 owners!

Koln-RS

4,128 posts

243 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Kidhaa said:
not going to bother replacing, opc said they have improved the ceramics from 2008? I’ll just believe whatever gob stee they tell !!
I thought it was the so called 'Generation 3' PCCBs, that came in with or just before the 997 GT3.1 (2005/6?,)that have all the improvements.

Martian O

2,734 posts

193 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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My (very) late 2006 Turbo has PCCB's which are fab with no cold/hot/wear issues at all.

mm450exc

571 posts

209 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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The PCCB rotors on my '07tt with 14k miles on it have 0% wear. No track use.