Young Jobseekers made to work for free
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Haven't seen a post on this yet, which surprises me!
Young Jobseekers being made to work for supermarkets for free.
Linky
Now, as most know I tend to be left-leaning but I've thought for a while that we should make jobseekers work part time while they find a job, learning skills for a trade or doing socially-relevant work (cleaning parks, working for charities etc).
I think the intentions are right, just how they've gone about it is wrong, we shouldn't be giving Tesco free labour (for example).
What say the PH collective?
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Young Jobseekers being made to work for supermarkets for free.
Linky
Now, as most know I tend to be left-leaning but I've thought for a while that we should make jobseekers work part time while they find a job, learning skills for a trade or doing socially-relevant work (cleaning parks, working for charities etc).
I think the intentions are right, just how they've gone about it is wrong, we shouldn't be giving Tesco free labour (for example).
What say the PH collective?
<heads for cover>
maix27 said:
Haven't seen a post on this yet, which surprises me!
Young Jobseekers being made to work for supermarkets for free.
Linky
Now, as most know I tend to be left-leaning but I've thought for a while that we should make jobseekers work part time while they find a job, learning skills for a trade or doing socially-relevant work (cleaning parks, working for charities etc).
I think the intentions are right, just how they've gone about it is wrong, we shouldn't be giving Tesco free labour (for example).
What say the PH collective?
<heads for cover>
Not *free* tho is it. My fYoung Jobseekers being made to work for supermarkets for free.
Linky
Now, as most know I tend to be left-leaning but I've thought for a while that we should make jobseekers work part time while they find a job, learning skills for a trade or doing socially-relevant work (cleaning parks, working for charities etc).
I think the intentions are right, just how they've gone about it is wrong, we shouldn't be giving Tesco free labour (for example).
What say the PH collective?
<heads for cover>
king business has to pay for these lazy fkersJustayellowbadge said:
Soovy said:
Quite right too. Why should they get free money?
True, but by the same token, why are we paying for Tesco's christmas staff?Justayellowbadge said:
Soovy said:
Quite right too. Why should they get free money?
True, but by the same token, why are we paying for Tesco's christmas staff?Option 2: We pay them dole and they stack shelves.
I prefer option 2 on the basis that it's more important to me that they do something for their money than it is that Tesco gets a little benefit.
Olivera said:
Is this actually valuable work experience for the job-seeker or a cynical way to get some free labour? I'd say mostly the latter. Welcome to the new world of unemployment, unpaid labour and unpaid internships...
Wrong, it sends a very powerful message, either train and gain skills or face working in Tesco for little money, rather than sat on arse getting pissed and playing games. It's a little like YTS.Caulkhead said:
Justayellowbadge said:
Soovy said:
Quite right too. Why should they get free money?
True, but by the same token, why are we paying for Tesco's christmas staff?Option 2: We pay them dole and they stack shelves.
I prefer option 2 on the basis that it's more important to me that they do something for their money than it is that Tesco gets a little benefit.
I don't think them doing something like stacking shelves is of any use to us as a society, and i'm sure as eggs is eggs the sort of person on JSA isn't going to be motivated by this, they'll see it as punishment and resit, as soon as they get the chance they'll be looking for hand-outs again, you need to install a sense of worth, pride and get up and go in these people, making them work for Tesco isn't going to do that IMHO.
Caulkhead said:
Justayellowbadge said:
Soovy said:
Quite right too. Why should they get free money?
True, but by the same token, why are we paying for Tesco's christmas staff?Option 2: We pay them dole and they stack shelves.
I prefer option 2 on the basis that it's more important to me that they do something for their money than it is that Tesco gets a little benefit.
Caulkhead said:
Option 1: We pay them dole and they do what they like.
Option 2: We pay them dole and they stack shelves.
I prefer option 2 on the basis that it's more important to me that they do something for their money than it is that Tesco gets a little benefit.
What he said!! ^^^Option 2: We pay them dole and they stack shelves.
I prefer option 2 on the basis that it's more important to me that they do something for their money than it is that Tesco gets a little benefit.
It should be a requirement for JSA or any other "I'm out of work so pay me sumfink" benefit that you (and I include me in this BTW) have to DO something to "earn" the publics money ('cos it IS out money, not the Governments money), and if that means stacking shelves, sweeping pavements, mowing grass, clearing weeds or clearing graffiti at a level equivalent to the minimum wage, then off you bloody well go!
otolith said:
Somebody has to work for Tesco - should the long term unemployed think themselves above supermarket work?
It's not a case of being 'above' supermarket work, it's just pointless to the general tax payer who is essentially paying these wages. Why am i paying tax so Tesco can get cheap labour? My windows haven't been cleaned in months, make them do that.
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