3D TV - what's different?
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The Moose

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23,533 posts

231 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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I found myself wandering around Tesco the other night and they seemed to have a pretty good deal on a 3D TV. It got me thinking - what is actually different between a 3D HD TV and a normal 2D HD TV?

Anyone know?

randlemarcus

13,644 posts

253 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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Daft glasses, and a means of displaying two pictures at once.

Shaw Tarse

31,834 posts

225 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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I'd like to see F1 in 3D.

-Pete-

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198 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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Shaw Tarse said:
I'd like to see F1 in 3D.
u'dlike2cf1in3d?

davepoth

29,395 posts

221 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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Shaw Tarse said:
I'd like to see F1 in 3D.
I think it would probably make you sick quite quickly due to the way it isn't really properly 3D. With everything on the screen moving at the same time you'd vomit all over the sofa.

-Pete-

2,914 posts

198 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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davepoth said:
I think it would probably make you sick quite quickly due to the way it isn't really properly 3D. With everything on the screen moving at the same time you'd vomit all over the sofa.
Might make it more interesting, not much happening on the track...

The Moose

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231 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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randlemarcus said:
Daft glasses, and a means of displaying two pictures at once.
But surely it's not 2 pictures at once?

Obviously, it is when they come out the cameras before they are 'joined' together, but surely once they are joined together, they look wk without glasses and the glasses play with your eyes a bit and make them 3D?

Or have I got this totally wrong?

3D porn would be great - apparently it exists - just need the 3D TV now! lol

-Pete-

2,914 posts

198 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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You need 4D porn. I'm sure it's in development as we speak...

Hackney

7,368 posts

230 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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It's absolutely ridiculous.

When you watch something in rubbish old 2d, do you think, "how weird, all these flat things. I can't tell what's near and what's far away. Has Jenson in his flat McLaren overtaken Webber in his flat Red Bull or the other way around?"

What b******s.

3D was "invented" by the cinema industry to con more money out of the punter and - more importantly - to help prevent copyright infringement.

YOU DO NOT NEED A 3D TV.

The Moose

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23,533 posts

231 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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Ok, for some reason, I'm getting the rather odd feeling that Hackney is somewhat against 3D TV.

That doesn't answer my question though!! :P

Shaw Tarse

31,834 posts

225 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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The Moose said:
Ok, for some reason, I'm getting the rather odd feeling that Hackney is somewhat against 3D TV.

That doesn't answer my question though!! :P
I had a look at 3D tv in Best Buy a few months ago, they were playing a demo video, showing things swooshing towards you.
Looked quite good, I thought F1 would work in 3D, but looks like I'd just hurl

croyde

25,445 posts

252 months

Thursday 17th November 2011
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I film stuff in 3D yet I would not get a 3D TV and have now started taking the kids to the 2D versions of films as it's cheaper and brighter.

It's great that I get the extra work but I am not really impressed with the result.

davepoth

29,395 posts

221 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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croyde said:
I film stuff in 3D yet I would not get a 3D TV and have now started taking the kids to the 2D versions of films as it's cheaper and brighter.

It's great that I get the extra work but I am not really impressed with the result.
IMO the display technology is not really there yet. Until we have some kind of true perspective display (holographic or something) it's not going to be mainstream.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

276 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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The Moose said:
But surely it's not 2 pictures at once?

Obviously, it is when they come out the cameras before they are 'joined' together, but surely once they are joined together, they look wk without glasses and the glasses play with your eyes a bit and make them 3D?

Or have I got this totally wrong?

3D porn would be great - apparently it exists - just need the 3D TV now! lol
yes.

3d TV is run at 120 frames a second, the source is two 30 fps feeds shown twice a second.

So left frame 1 then right frame1 then left frame 1/right frame1 then left frame 2/right frame 2.

The glasses 'switch off' the opposite eye (via fast LCD shutter) so the left eye only sees the left frames etc. This happens so fast you dont notice. But does (IMO) cause issues with fast moving things.

croyde

25,445 posts

252 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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Very true. Currently the effect looks like layers of pop ups, like those kids books or those Gaf Viewmaster things that were popular in the late 60s early 70s when ermmm, I was a kid.

Plus when you have got your 3D Telly home with a couple of sets of specs and the footie is on, what do you do if your mates come round to watch as well. Just let them watch a blurry screen.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

277 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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Hackney said:
It's absolutely ridiculous.

When you watch something in rubbish old 2d, do you think, "how weird, all these flat things. I can't tell what's near and what's far away. Has Jenson in his flat McLaren overtaken Webber in his flat Red Bull or the other way around?"

What b******s.

3D was "invented" by the cinema industry to con more money out of the punter and - more importantly - to help prevent copyright infringement.

YOU DO NOT NEED A 3D TV.
What he said...yes

Bibbs

3,740 posts

232 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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I've got one.

The broadcast (for some sports chanel) is two pictures at the same time (on for each focal point).
The TV then alternates between the two pics, and syncs it with some glasses.
I watched some skateboarding championship for about 15mins and got bored.

The effect was okay, seemed to have some sheen or glow around objects (prob due to the lower refresh rate). This gave me a headache after a while, like watching an old CRT screen when sitting too close.

During the day you get reflections on the glasses which makes it hard to watch.

I think it'll be just one of those things that'll get added to all TV's soon. Like HDMI and VGA connectors were, and like WiFi and Cameras are (Skype ready TVs are becoming popular).


anonymous-user

76 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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While bored the other day I had a play on one of those Nintendo 3d things. Couldn't quite decide whether the affect worked or annoyed! And if they can do it with no glasses why can't a larger screen?


Popolou

1,206 posts

229 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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The Moose said:
randlemarcus said:
Daft glasses, and a means of displaying two pictures at once.
But surely it's not 2 pictures at once?

Obviously, it is when they come out the cameras before they are 'joined' together, but surely once they are joined together, they look wk without glasses and the glasses play with your eyes a bit and make them 3D?

Or have I got this totally wrong?

3D porn would be great - apparently it exists - just need the 3D TV now! lol
Nearly. On the sky 3D channel, you can actually see the offset one image has over the other.

bigandclever

14,192 posts

260 months

Friday 18th November 2011
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Dave_ST220 said:
While bored the other day I had a play on one of those Nintendo 3d things. Couldn't quite decide whether the affect worked or annoyed! And if they can do it with no glasses why can't a larger screen?
Cost and complexity I'd imagine. But glasses-free 3D tellys are coming... http://www.trustedreviews.com/toshiba-55zl2-glasse...