Whats the view on these recreations?

[Phooey]

Whats the general view on the recreation 911's with regards to long-term desirability and value? It's gotta be a great way (if you haven't got £70k+ to blow on a second or third toy) to get into something that is, in term of looks anyhow.. special.

Could you easily blow a fortune on a replica?

Love this beauty -

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C259998

[carcrazypop]

I personally don't quite understand the prices some of these replicas go up for; they might look the business but are never going to be the real thing.

Many years ago, I was looking at AC Cobras, but unfortunately, could'nt afford the real thing; after looking at many replica Cobras, I decided against and ending up buying a real, proper Sunbeam Tiger, 4.7 V8, and absolutely loved it.

I think replicas have their place as long as reasonably priced, but IMHO, never buy a replica as an investment, buy it because you love the way it looks & drives.

The car in the link does look the business, but £50k ? I'm not sure.

[Paul Dishman]

Thats a nice car to go historic racing in and its at a fraction of the cost of a real one. The danger would in say, twenty years time if its history became "muddled" and it could get passed off as a real one

[cragswinter]

they are lovely, but for me, at that price, i'd rather have a genuine gt3rs/964rs.

it's always going to be the real thing after all.

[mollytherocker]

cragswinter said:

they are lovely, but for me, at that price, i'd rather have a genuine gt3rs/964rs.

it's always going to be the real thing after all.

I agree with you, but I think the point of these reps is to be able to use them however you want without fear of ruining a 'special car'.

MTR

[Chris_]

I would have that.

I think that a car like the one in the OP's link, shares far more in common with an original RS, than say a Cobra or other period "replicas".

According to the ad, it's got an RSR spec engine, wheels and other RS/RSR parts, so I think I would basically be getting (most of) the experience at a fraction of the cost. Compared to the price of a nice bog-standard 911E these days, it doesn't seem that expensive.

I would happily remove the badges though, to avoid the accusations of trying to pretend it was anything else, other than a fabulous looking/sounding/driving 911.

[anonymous-user]

I don't have a problem with them to be honest. If done correctly they can look and drive exactly like the real thing - only the chassis number happens to belong to a lesser derivative. If it saves a huge amount of money over a matching numbers original then great. But the problem is that many of these cars are rough old bitsas slung together in someone's shed, often running out of money to finish the job off. They are very difficult to value too and can only be judged on an individual basis. But I've seen and driven a few outstanding 2.7RS reps as well as the real thing and it would be hard, if not impossible, to tell the difference.

[Andiroo]

I tried to 'have' it, back in September, when it was originally up with Coys...Guy Newton said it was unfortunately sold - Plus the reg was LYY 850K 6 weeks ago when it was advertised on here??

eta - also just found the old add and it was supposed to orginally be a 911S, now it's a 911E...

Edited by Andiroo on Friday 18th November 16:09

[GT Glee]

I think the whiff of low quality GRP and horrendous panel gaps would have you pondering what possessed you to plough £50k of your hard-earned.

[cragswinter]

GT Glee said:

I think the whiff of low quality GRP and horrendous panel gaps would have you pondering what possessed you to plough £50k of your hard-earned.

of all the ones i looked at, this is what most put me off, i mean, i know every lb counts with the older cars but the finish on them is way below par for what you're spending, never mind that the genuine cars seemed to manage without them.

[Steve Rance]

Cheap way to go Historic racing.

[Phooey]

Interesting comments - thanks. What attracts with these cars (to me anyhow), is that it IS still a Porsche afterall. Maybe not the *genuine* sought-after model it's trying to be, but then if you don't have hundreds of £k to spend, it's possibly the only way into the classic it's replicating. And how great would you feel driving the above car on a Sunday morning :bliss:

Finding the true value of a 'recreation' is, i can imagine, a "how long is a piece of string" question. Good to hear other peoples opinions on a subject i know f-all about though.

Can also imagine the recreation market is smaller than the original one?

[KH]

Never had a Porsche Rep, but ploughed £30k into a Cobra one and struggled for a year to sell it for £11k. Had many people sneer at it and tell me that it wasn't the 'real thing', which was friendly.

[Andiroo]

Phooey said:

Interesting comments - thanks. What attracts with these cars (to me anyhow), is that it IS still a Porsche afterall. Maybe not the *genuine* sought-after model it's trying to be, but then if you don't have hundreds of £k to spend, it's possibly the only way into the classic it's replicating. And how great would you feel driving the above car on a Sunday morning :bliss:

Finding the true value of a 'recreation' is, i can imagine, a "how long is a piece of string" question. Good to hear other peoples opinions on a subject i know f-all about though.

Can also imagine the recreation market is smaller than the original one?

Totally agree. In my mind, a true rep (not a homage) should replicate *exactly* what the oldtime masterpiece was like, but for a fraction of the cost.

Cost - IMHO, as long as the build cost (documented) is 150%+ of the asking price, then as a sum of it's part/body prep cost (if done well), it's looking good, especially as a period engine can be upwards of £25k. If it drives like an original, and most of us can only guess what an original drives like, then that is a bonus

My *only* concerns are as posted above, why is it selling so quickly after it was sold, what happened to the vehicle reg and why, why is it a E when it was an S before....

[BertBert]

It's a very interesting topic. I had an RS rep built from a 73 car. It was quite authentic (if that's the right word) against a real one. It was a complete hooligan and fulfilled in every way what I wanted - to get the driving experience of a real RS for much less. It had a problem though. Even though it was quite authentic, the actual restoration ranged from poor to ste. So I spent a shedload to get it good, but it still had a load of projects to do for me to be happy so I sold. It went for about 40k, which coincidentally was what it cost me to buy and then fix.

So I think the great thing about old classic 911s is that they can be produced as replicas quite easily. There's no great secret to the essence of an RS or an RSR. The problem is that it's quite costly to do and more costly to do well. So yes a proper RS or RSR rep is worth 50k.

Bert

[Phooey]

This looks nice- http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1894782.htm

[Crimp a Length!]

Difficult to sell also

[Phooey]

Crimp a Length! said:

Difficult to sell also

Yeah i can believe that. I think you have to be in it for the long run.

[carcrazypop]

Phooey said:

This looks nice- http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1894782.htm

That car has been for sale for absolutely ages.

[911Thrasher]

Phooey said:

This looks nice- http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1894782.htm

Lovely indeed, i can see myself running it...but indeed it has been for sale for months and months, and the price has never been lowered. It is also advertised in few classic magazines!