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Hi
I have only owned the 996 for about 4-5 months and love it!
but....
I am already thinking about putting it up for sale in the Spring and adding some more cash to the pot and buying a 993.
I have had a look and they seem to start from 15-20k
Having never driven a 993 are they totally different to drive than the 996?
It would be used as a daily driver as is the 996.
Cheers
I have only owned the 996 for about 4-5 months and love it!
but....
I am already thinking about putting it up for sale in the Spring and adding some more cash to the pot and buying a 993.
I have had a look and they seem to start from 15-20k
Having never driven a 993 are they totally different to drive than the 996?
It would be used as a daily driver as is the 996.
Cheers
Totally different I'd say, however you'll get a lot of people saying you can't use them as a daily-but plenty of folks did in the past!
Just depends on what you insist on with a daily driver, I'd certainly have no problems driving one daily-in fact I think it'd be fantastic but then I do drive a corsa van every day so it wouldn't take much to improve on that
Just depends on what you insist on with a daily driver, I'd certainly have no problems driving one daily-in fact I think it'd be fantastic but then I do drive a corsa van every day so it wouldn't take much to improve on that
...I think you will get a load of replies here....
My two cents worth....the 993 is an awesome car....great engine ( whether vario or non-vario)....superb design and built with the thought of cost not an issue....air-cooled engine.....say no more....I love mine and when I get to drive it, it's an absolute pleasure and if my daily commute was not bumper to bumper traffic I would use daily....but mine is just a indulgent pleasure.....and I love it.
p.s Always buy on condition....repeat three times....and get it checked over by someone in the know.
p.p.s. Don't be put off by high mileage or the number of owners.
Jackal's site is a good starting place.
http://www.jackals-forge.com/lotus/993/993_buy_gui...
My two cents worth....the 993 is an awesome car....great engine ( whether vario or non-vario)....superb design and built with the thought of cost not an issue....air-cooled engine.....say no more....I love mine and when I get to drive it, it's an absolute pleasure and if my daily commute was not bumper to bumper traffic I would use daily....but mine is just a indulgent pleasure.....and I love it.
p.s Always buy on condition....repeat three times....and get it checked over by someone in the know.
p.p.s. Don't be put off by high mileage or the number of owners.
Jackal's site is a good starting place.
http://www.jackals-forge.com/lotus/993/993_buy_gui...
Fella, they are chalk and cheese. Views on here wont help you, the only way to see if you like it is to drive it.
In fact, just sitting in one will give you a good idea! Its a marmite car.
A good friend of mine was very excited when I told him I had bought 'a 911' but when he sat in it, his face dropped and seemed to say. 'What the f
k is this!!'
MTR
In fact, just sitting in one will give you a good idea! Its a marmite car.
A good friend of mine was very excited when I told him I had bought 'a 911' but when he sat in it, his face dropped and seemed to say. 'What the f
k is this!!'MTR
Thanks.
I am used to retro classics from the 80's and 90's so very used to the interiors from the era in question.
I just believe that the 993 is the nicest shape 911.
My daily commute is from Walton on Thames to Hammersmith (15 miles max each way). The thing is, since I work shifts I am usually driving into London at 06:00am and heading home circa 2pm. I therefore miss most of the traffic.
The appeal with the 993 also is that I believe if kept in fine fettle it will be/is an appreciating classic.
I am used to retro classics from the 80's and 90's so very used to the interiors from the era in question.
I just believe that the 993 is the nicest shape 911.
My daily commute is from Walton on Thames to Hammersmith (15 miles max each way). The thing is, since I work shifts I am usually driving into London at 06:00am and heading home circa 2pm. I therefore miss most of the traffic.
The appeal with the 993 also is that I believe if kept in fine fettle it will be/is an appreciating classic.
TROOPER88 said:
Thanks.
I am used to retro classics from the 80's and 90's so very used to the interiors from the era in question.
I just believe that the 993 is the nicest shape 911.
My daily commute is from Walton on Thames to Hammersmith (15 miles max each way). The thing is, since I work shifts I am usually driving into London at 06:00am and heading home circa 2pm. I therefore miss most of the traffic.
The appeal with the 993 also is that I believe if kept in fine fettle it will be/is an appreciating classic.
It does sound like a 993 might be for you. Buy carefully in the first place and then spend your depreciation savings on maintenance!I am used to retro classics from the 80's and 90's so very used to the interiors from the era in question.
I just believe that the 993 is the nicest shape 911.
My daily commute is from Walton on Thames to Hammersmith (15 miles max each way). The thing is, since I work shifts I am usually driving into London at 06:00am and heading home circa 2pm. I therefore miss most of the traffic.
The appeal with the 993 also is that I believe if kept in fine fettle it will be/is an appreciating classic.
MTR
I would be very interested in replies here also. Like OP have owned my 6t for same sort of period as he has owned his 996 and am thinking of similar move in few months time. Mine is a second car so daily drive not an issue...love the turbo but too quick and fear will end up doing something stupid! Also, perhaps 993 may be more of an event? I haven't sat in omne but have seen one close up - interior doesn't look great but that's not the reason to buy a car of that age I suppose - what I would be interested to know: where can I drive one? I don't see many dealers with them for sale, and those that do have them are unlikely to give test drive unless I am close to buying I would guess...
daveyb662 said:
I would be very interested in replies here also. Like OP have owned my 6t for same sort of period as he has owned his 996 and am thinking of similar move in few months time. Mine is a second car so daily drive not an issue...love the turbo but too quick and fear will end up doing something stupid! Also, perhaps 993 may be more of an event? I haven't sat in omne but have seen one close up - interior doesn't look great but that's not the reason to buy a car of that age I suppose - what I would be interested to know: where can I drive one? I don't see many dealers with them for sale, and those that do have them are unlikely to give test drive unless I am close to buying I would guess...
I am sure that someone on here near to you would give you a ride in one. That would give you a fair idea of their character.MTR
I've had both as daily drivers, for 4 years each...
I wouldn't go back to a 993 personally, to be honest: The offset pedals contributed to a slipped disc for a start, and I would miss the things you take for granted in a more modern car every day - such as a climate control system that actually works, PSM (so you can find the limits safely, before you start plying with it switched off). I agree that it is more of an event driving a 993, but not the sort of event I would want every day as a routine... However, the looks and financial justification (although, I personally don't think that will continue indefinitely - especially if you put too many miles on it and spend what you need to to maintain what will soon be a 20 year-old car) might be more important to you, than me, I guess...
If you want more buzz from a daily driver I would do what I did and spend the same money on a 996 Turbo. If you want a 'special' car for the weekends, high days and holidays, I would actually go back a lot further and get a really nice SC or something small and light (I'm a bit obsessed with weight at the moment - after enjoying a 1200 mile dash across Europe, including Stelvio, in a 1000kg mid-engined older car, without heavy nanny state clutter
)
I wouldn't go back to a 993 personally, to be honest: The offset pedals contributed to a slipped disc for a start, and I would miss the things you take for granted in a more modern car every day - such as a climate control system that actually works, PSM (so you can find the limits safely, before you start plying with it switched off). I agree that it is more of an event driving a 993, but not the sort of event I would want every day as a routine... However, the looks and financial justification (although, I personally don't think that will continue indefinitely - especially if you put too many miles on it and spend what you need to to maintain what will soon be a 20 year-old car) might be more important to you, than me, I guess...
If you want more buzz from a daily driver I would do what I did and spend the same money on a 996 Turbo. If you want a 'special' car for the weekends, high days and holidays, I would actually go back a lot further and get a really nice SC or something small and light (I'm a bit obsessed with weight at the moment - after enjoying a 1200 mile dash across Europe, including Stelvio, in a 1000kg mid-engined older car, without heavy nanny state clutter
)kVA said:
I've had both as daily drivers, for 4 years each...
I wouldn't go back to a 993 personally, to be honest: The offset pedals contributed to a slipped disc for a start, and I would miss the things you take for granted in a more modern car every day - such as a climate control system that actually works, PSM (so you can find the limits safely, before you start plying with it switched off). I agree that it is more of an event driving a 993, but not the sort of event I would want every day as a routine... However, the looks and financial justification (although, I personally don't think that will continue indefinitely - especially if you put too many miles on it and spend what you need to to maintain what will soon be a 20 year-old car) might be more important to you, than me, I guess...
If you want more buzz from a daily driver I would do what I did and spend the same money on a 996 Turbo. If you want a 'special' car for the weekends, high days and holidays, I would actually go back a lot further and get a really nice SC or something small and light (I'm a bit obsessed with weight at the moment - after enjoying a 1200 mile dash across Europe, including Stelvio, in a 1000kg mid-engined older car, without heavy nanny state clutter )
A 996 Turbo; that could be fun!I wouldn't go back to a 993 personally, to be honest: The offset pedals contributed to a slipped disc for a start, and I would miss the things you take for granted in a more modern car every day - such as a climate control system that actually works, PSM (so you can find the limits safely, before you start plying with it switched off). I agree that it is more of an event driving a 993, but not the sort of event I would want every day as a routine... However, the looks and financial justification (although, I personally don't think that will continue indefinitely - especially if you put too many miles on it and spend what you need to to maintain what will soon be a 20 year-old car) might be more important to you, than me, I guess...
If you want more buzz from a daily driver I would do what I did and spend the same money on a 996 Turbo. If you want a 'special' car for the weekends, high days and holidays, I would actually go back a lot further and get a really nice SC or something small and light (I'm a bit obsessed with weight at the moment - after enjoying a 1200 mile dash across Europe, including Stelvio, in a 1000kg mid-engined older car, without heavy nanny state clutter
)I've been using a 993 as a daily driver for the last 18 months. It has been great. Really easy to live with. I absolutely love the feeling of getting into it on the way home. It's not been a bit of trouble and has even been pretty cheap to run. The only downside for me is I've racked some miles up on it which if I keep going will knock the value. Hence the car is up for sale at the moment.
I've ran both 993 Carrera and 993 turbo as daily in downtown London, averaging 10 iles per annum, parked in the street over night, etc. Never had a problem and currently contemplating selling my current 997.1 GT3 RS for a 993 RS which again will be used as my old 993s.
Go try one, and if you like it go for it: well maintained they are indestructible! And super easy to live with.
Go try one, and if you like it go for it: well maintained they are indestructible! And super easy to live with.
I replaced my 996 turbo with a 993 turbo about 2 1/2 years ago. I love the 993, it has far more character than the 996, it's more rewarding to drive quickly and so much better to look at. Yes you can drive it every day, although it's way more tiring when you're in stop-start traffic, and you'll notice quite a bit more road noise (and hence fatigue) on a long (5hrs+) journey.
If that doesn't trouble you, go for it.
I certainly won't be changing back.
If that doesn't trouble you, go for it.
I certainly won't be changing back.
I'm on my 7th 911 and about to pick up my 8th next week (a mint condition 993). I've never used my 911s for daily use but think it would be okay in a 993. Anything older might be too wearing but the 993 is just about modern and comfortable enough. I think that the 993 C2 is the best, usable 911. It is quick enough to be fun but not so quick that your licence is constantly in danger (996 tt and above). I also prefer it to the 993 tt. I was thinking of getting a 993 tt but drove one recently on some nice country lanes. It was certainly quick and the build quality was great but it was too stiff and the tyres too wide and it seemed to follow every bump in the road, needing constant correction. In comparison the plain vanilla 993 C2 is slower but I find more rewarding: flows across the road much better.
A normal 996 is not as special as a 993 and likely to continue depreciating.
As others have suggested try both, although I think you need a decent amount of time in a 993 as it is different from modern cars and modern 911s and you need time to adjust (but once you do, you are likely to be smitten!)
A normal 996 is not as special as a 993 and likely to continue depreciating.
As others have suggested try both, although I think you need a decent amount of time in a 993 as it is different from modern cars and modern 911s and you need time to adjust (but once you do, you are likely to be smitten!)
I've run 3 911's as daily drives through summer and winter.
1st was a 3.2 Carrera (2 years)
2nd was a 993 C4 (2 years)
3rd was a 3.2 Carrera (6 years)
The pedals in all 3 were quite hard work in heavy traffic. The biggest problem on the 3.2 Carrera was rust and general maintenance, things do start to add up and all aircooled cars are more expensive to service than the later water cooled cars.
I'm currently looking for a nice seal grey 996 turbo (although I'd love a 997 GT3)!
1st was a 3.2 Carrera (2 years)
2nd was a 993 C4 (2 years)
3rd was a 3.2 Carrera (6 years)
The pedals in all 3 were quite hard work in heavy traffic. The biggest problem on the 3.2 Carrera was rust and general maintenance, things do start to add up and all aircooled cars are more expensive to service than the later water cooled cars.
I'm currently looking for a nice seal grey 996 turbo (although I'd love a 997 GT3)!
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