Talk me into (or out of) an E90 330d.
Discussion
Was looking for ages at the 5 series, and trying to find the one i wanted was being a bit of a nightmare. I've been running the ST220 for a year now and the mpg isnt brilliant but im only really changing because im a bit bored.
I found a 330d in blue with everything, heated leather (although i actually prefer cloth), xenons, idrive, navigation etc etc. It's a 2006 on 120,000 miles.
Being sold by an independant trader who works from home. He tells me he's just dropped the price and is looking to get rid because he's had it a while. He states its got 3 keys, full BMWSH with 9 service stamps, most recent in Jan this year. No mention of the MoT yet but im sure this is a formality.
Im unsure about that rear spoiler, but it might grow on me. Out of curiosity, how much mpg do you get on one of these, when hooning and when driving slowly? Is it bad or bearable?
I know every car has its faults, but to read between the lines, it seems pretty mint. The only downside is that its nearly a 3 hour drive away to go and see it.
I found a 330d in blue with everything, heated leather (although i actually prefer cloth), xenons, idrive, navigation etc etc. It's a 2006 on 120,000 miles.
Being sold by an independant trader who works from home. He tells me he's just dropped the price and is looking to get rid because he's had it a while. He states its got 3 keys, full BMWSH with 9 service stamps, most recent in Jan this year. No mention of the MoT yet but im sure this is a formality.
Im unsure about that rear spoiler, but it might grow on me. Out of curiosity, how much mpg do you get on one of these, when hooning and when driving slowly? Is it bad or bearable?
I know every car has its faults, but to read between the lines, it seems pretty mint. The only downside is that its nearly a 3 hour drive away to go and see it.
My Dad's got a 330d Touring auto, which is nearly new and therefore the facelift version with a few more bhp (I think). I'm insured on it and it goes like stink. A major difference I notice is the lack of smoke coming out the back under load, which I'm used to seeing from my car! However, it's a 6 cylinder so is nice and smooth and, if just driving around town, very quiet.
Averaging about 38mpg I believe. I say go for it!
Averaging about 38mpg I believe. I say go for it!
Mafioso said:
My Dad's got a 330d Touring auto, which is nearly new and therefore the facelift version with a few more bhp (I think). I'm insured on it and it goes like stink. A major difference I notice is the lack of smoke coming out the back under load, which I'm used to seeing from my car! However, it's a 6 cylinder so is nice and smooth and, if just driving around town, very quiet.
Averaging about 38mpg I believe. I say go for it!
As much as 38? Was that with short or long journeys and hooning and none-hooning, or a mixture of all?Averaging about 38mpg I believe. I say go for it!
Piepiepie said:
As much as 38? Was that with short or long journeys and hooning and none-hooning, or a mixture of all?
My E46 330d auto gave about 43-44 tootling around Scotland on holiday, and 30-32 hooning like an eejit on the way there and back. (All brim-to-brim figures - pooter shows +10% on those numbers!)
Piepiepie said:
Arggh i cant decide and need to ring him tonight to arrange a possible viewing tomorrow. Its up for £8800 but i expect his price to be lower than that because he says hes reducing it but want budge on the new price. (im guess the new price will be £8500 but thats a guess).
What's the problem? What's putting you off? What are you currently driving?Mafioso said:
What's the problem? What's putting you off? What are you currently driving?
Probably the distance to travel, me being a bit of a tight sod, and the concern that if it goes wrong, it's gonna be big bills. You compare the horrors of what car go wrong with turbos, injectors, swirlf flaps etc (assuming the e90 has s.flaps) and compare it to what could go wrong with my current car, and the only thing that seems to cause the mondeo problems is the DMF.Current on a 2004 ST220 with 70k on the clock with no problems.
sday12 said:
DanielC4GP said:
With the risk of sounding like a past PHer the only problem I think you'd have if you bought of these is that you'd think "what if I had bought the 335d".
335d is auto only. Made it a no no in my book.Lot of car for the money, prone to DPF failure, esp at that age.
With regard to the supposed fragility of every component under the bonnet, I would love to know the true amount of these catastrophic failures, or whether in fact it's more 'my mates dads brothers cousins had terrible problems with one of them, everything broke' which they then post on a forum and so it perpetuates.
66comanche said:
Auto is the smart choice on a car like this IMO, changing gear constantly due to a comparitively narrow power band and with 6 gears to go through becomes a chore, especially as it's likely to be used for a rush-hour commute frequently.
With regard to the supposed fragility of every component under the bonnet, I would love to know the true amount of these catastrophic failures, or whether in fact it's more 'my mates dads brothers cousins had terrible problems with one of them, everything broke' which they then post on a forum and so it perpetuates.
Agreed. I've checked with several BMW techs and the diesels are reliable, especially the six pots. It's the petrols that die - 320 I and 335i are particularly prone to self destruction. Don't forget that forums tend to distill issues, making them appear worse than they really are.With regard to the supposed fragility of every component under the bonnet, I would love to know the true amount of these catastrophic failures, or whether in fact it's more 'my mates dads brothers cousins had terrible problems with one of them, everything broke' which they then post on a forum and so it perpetuates.
Piepiepie said:
full BMWSH with 9 service stamps
Bear in mind that service stamps are worthless without the paperwork to back them up, so make sure he has that. I get really annoyed because so many sellers describe a car as having FSH, and it then turns out that all they have are some old MOTs and a stamped service book. That's not a full service history!
66comanche said:
Auto is the smart choice on a car like this IMO, changing gear constantly due to a comparitively narrow power band and with 6 gears to go through becomes a chore
Lets not start all that again!330i has 6 gears, and goes between 0 and 155mph
330d has 6 gears, and goes btween 0 and 155mph
Funnily enough the engines power band is "narrower" by exactly the same amount that the final drive ratio is taller..............
The reason to get an auto is exactly the same for both the D and i, and that is because you do a lot of driving in heavy traffic!
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