McLaren MP4-12c BBC 2 tonight 8pm
McLaren MP4-12c BBC 2 tonight 8pm
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Nedzilla

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2,439 posts

205 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Just a quick reminder for anyone interested in seeing how the MP4-12c is made.Should be worth a watch.

And yes,before anyone says this should be in the tv forum its already there!!

RobboC

1,772 posts

292 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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I thought it was an interesting program. I still adore the 12c and am still amazed by those selling them on due to the initial niggles.

Wonderful car, and British. biggrin

SonnyM

3,475 posts

224 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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RobboC said:
I thought it was an interesting program. I still adore the 12c and am still amazed by those selling them on due to the initial niggles.

Wonderful car, and British. biggrin
Let's hope they can fix it so that it becomes as good as they said it would be.

Beedub

1,993 posts

257 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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what a fabulous fabulous piece of television.......

Really enjoyed seeing that, seeing the care and attention put into the cars is nothing short of astounding, i am saving very very hard to get my mp4-12c..... its a matter of time :-) Blown away by the car and the people, the workmanship put into that car is nothing short of astounding....

Did anyone notice the 458 italia tucked to the side on the car park shot???

This documentary had me hooked from start to finish.... well done BBC......... see you can do it ;-)

AndrewD

7,659 posts

315 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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It seemed more like a corporate promo video than a documentary worthy of bbc2 imo.

andrew

10,365 posts

223 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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so a 19 yo with pony tails is assembling the rear brakes eek

anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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AndrewD said:
It seemed more like a corporate promo video than a documentary worthy of bbc2 imo.
I agree with this. I enjoyed it but could have gone so much deeper into the making of the car/technology.

cptsideways

13,895 posts

283 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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If I was buying one I'd be spanner checking mine before I used it wink

Letting the YTS oppo lass loose on a customers brakes was a bit odd, maybe a demo car yes not a production car. It seemed as though many of the factory people interviewed were not necessarily skilled before they got the job there. It appeared there was a stark contrast between Mr Super Anal everything must be perfect & the actual people who glued the things together, which might explain something I've experienced.


I met several people in the last few weeks who had one...

matc

4,738 posts

238 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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cptsideways said:
If I was buying one I'd be spanner checking mine before I used it wink

Letting the YTS oppo lass loose on a customers brakes was a bit odd, maybe a demo car yes not a production car. It seemed as though many of the factory people interviewed were not necessarily skilled before they got the job there. It appeared there was a stark contrast between Mr Super Anal everything must be perfect & the actual people who glued the things together, which might explain something I've experienced.


I met several people in the last few weeks who had one...
What an odd post....

The girl was being supervised by someone whilst she was doing it, it's not as though they'd just left her to get on with it. How on earth are people supposed to get into the industry if they don't get a chance to work on actual cars?

How do you know the people interviewed had no experience? Was I watching a different programme to you, because I'm pretty sure they didn't list the CV of everyone they interviewed.

A very good friend of mine works on the production floor and he only just got a job there, despite having experience with both main dealers and specialists since he left school, he's 33 now, so would you not consider 17 years enough experience to look after one part of car assembly?


cptsideways

13,895 posts

283 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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matc said:
cptsideways said:
If I was buying one I'd be spanner checking mine before I used it wink

Letting the YTS oppo lass loose on a customers brakes was a bit odd, maybe a demo car yes not a production car. It seemed as though many of the factory people interviewed were not necessarily skilled before they got the job there. It appeared there was a stark contrast between Mr Super Anal everything must be perfect & the actual people who glued the things together, which might explain something I've experienced.


I met several people in the last few weeks who had one...
What an odd post....

The girl was being supervised by someone whilst she was doing it, it's not as though they'd just left her to get on with it. How on earth are people supposed to get into the industry if they don't get a chance to work on actual cars?

How do you know the people interviewed had no experience? Was I watching a different programme to you, because I'm pretty sure they didn't list the CV of everyone they interviewed.

A very good friend of mine works on the production floor and he only just got a job there, despite having experience with both main dealers and specialists since he left school, he's 33 now, so would you not consider 17 years enough experience to look after one part of car assembly?
That was just my impression, apart from the ex F1 mechanic who obviously had a wealth of experience, those interviewed appeared to be new to it as opposed to fountains of knowledge & experience. The guy who developed the exhaust noise who arrived to work in a fiat Punto & the guys feeding the wiring looms were a good example. I was expecting a few more petrol heads & passion to be honest.

pork911

7,365 posts

214 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Hardly lifting the lid and even as a corpoorate (sic) vid came accross with a whiff of keen amateurs needing to cut more corners to shift units.

Unless my ears deceived me Ronald erred saying cost £2k each?

SonnyM

3,475 posts

224 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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cptsideways said:
matc said:
cptsideways said:
If I was buying one I'd be spanner checking mine before I used it wink

Letting the YTS oppo lass loose on a customers brakes was a bit odd, maybe a demo car yes not a production car. It seemed as though many of the factory people interviewed were not necessarily skilled before they got the job there. It appeared there was a stark contrast between Mr Super Anal everything must be perfect & the actual people who glued the things together, which might explain something I've experienced.


I met several people in the last few weeks who had one...
What an odd post....

The girl was being supervised by someone whilst she was doing it, it's not as though they'd just left her to get on with it. How on earth are people supposed to get into the industry if they don't get a chance to work on actual cars?

How do you know the people interviewed had no experience? Was I watching a different programme to you, because I'm pretty sure they didn't list the CV of everyone they interviewed.

A very good friend of mine works on the production floor and he only just got a job there, despite having experience with both main dealers and specialists since he left school, he's 33 now, so would you not consider 17 years enough experience to look after one part of car assembly?
That was just my impression, apart from the ex F1 mechanic who obviously had a wealth of experience, those interviewed appeared to be new to it as opposed to fountains of knowledge & experience. The guy who developed the exhaust noise who arrived to work in a fiat Punto & the guys feeding the wiring looms were a good example. I was expecting a few more petrol heads & passion to be honest.
Maybe Fiat Uno dude has a 458 in the garage and used his daughters first car because he didn't want Ron to see him in the 458?

You also know who to blame the 12C sound on now... and you can think "Fiat Uno" each time you accelerate...

biggrin

nagra

4,713 posts

215 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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cptsideways said:
...The guy who developed the exhaust noise who arrived to work in a fiat Punto & the guys feeding the wiring looms were a good example. I was expecting a few more petrol heads & passion to be honest.
What an odd thing to say.

So if you cant afford a car with a nice exhaust note then you cannot design/develop a decent sounding exhaust?

Well, I best tell my mate who works at Rolls Royce to stop designing parts for their engines and/or stop commuting on the bus!

Streetrod

6,484 posts

237 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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cptsideways said:
matc said:
cptsideways said:
If I was buying one I'd be spanner checking mine before I used it wink

Letting the YTS oppo lass loose on a customers brakes was a bit odd, maybe a demo car yes not a production car. It seemed as though many of the factory people interviewed were not necessarily skilled before they got the job there. It appeared there was a stark contrast between Mr Super Anal everything must be perfect & the actual people who glued the things together, which might explain something I've experienced.


I met several people in the last few weeks who had one...
What an odd post....

The girl was being supervised by someone whilst she was doing it, it's not as though they'd just left her to get on with it. How on earth are people supposed to get into the industry if they don't get a chance to work on actual cars?

How do you know the people interviewed had no experience? Was I watching a different programme to you, because I'm pretty sure they didn't list the CV of everyone they interviewed.

A very good friend of mine works on the production floor and he only just got a job there, despite having experience with both main dealers and specialists since he left school, he's 33 now, so would you not consider 17 years enough experience to look after one part of car assembly?
That was just my impression, apart from the ex F1 mechanic who obviously had a wealth of experience, those interviewed appeared to be new to it as opposed to fountains of knowledge & experience. The guy who developed the exhaust noise who arrived to work in a fiat Punto & the guys feeding the wiring looms were a good example. I was expecting a few more petrol heads & passion to be honest.
Let’s not forget that these guys are doing a repetitive job, the same as they would do on the Ferrari line or the Lambo line. It’s hard to look passionate it that situation. As for being petrol heads, I think I saw some pics of when the workers all bought in their own cars for a company car show. Some of the kit was very impressive

PompeyM3

1,847 posts

236 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Really interesting programme and a great example of what British industry can do and the standards it aims for.

There seemed a sense of teamwork that the staff were all there for the same goal (god, I wish I had that where I worked).

Do you think Ron likes going up and down in that glass lift ? wink

MP4

373 posts

270 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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I met several people in the last few weeks who had one...


Surprised I believe only 4 have been sold by original buyers and you have MET several of themeek

Care to elaborate please

cptsideways

13,895 posts

283 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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MP4 said:
I met several people in the last few weeks who had one...


Surprised I believe only 4 have been sold by original buyers and you have MET several of themeek

Care to elaborate please
I work in the business of demonstrating high end cars to these customers

ewolg

1,735 posts

310 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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cptsideways said:
I work in the business of demonstrating high end cars to these customers
Occupation: Going Sideways

Hmmm, I wonder if they appreciate doing their test drive looking out of the side window.....

MP4

373 posts

270 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Well you have done very well demonstrating to several of only 4smile

I wish I could get Sales people of that type of calibre perhaps I could then have afforded to keep my 458 as well (great car too)

petemurphy

10,966 posts

214 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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watching now - the buildings are almost more impressive than the car!