US university investigates campus pepper spray use

[paddyhasneeds]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15809742

I don't quite get the problem if I'm honest. Protesters won't leave, Dean calls Police, Police don't take any st and get rid of the protesters in what seems a reasonably non-violent way (it being the US and all that).

[Jasandjules]

Well it's not like they were fighting back or being violent at all, so I don't see why CS was used, at least at that point in time.

[pokethepope]

They seemed to be sitting down on a path. Not blocking a road or building, or disrupting anybody. I'd say dragging them away would be excessive, let alone pepper spray. Just leave them be and wait for them to get hungry or need a piss.

[Mr_B]

Some 84 year old granny got it in the face ( pepper spray, that is ) the other day for being part of a protest.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northame...

[Bing o]

Arming the small minded who are unable to get jobs in the real po-po is never going to end well, especially amongst a nation of e-number addled trigger happy loons.

Still, world police, land of the free, home of the brave eh...

[thinfourth2]

Of course who would object to that being done to those currently camped outside St pauls

[Derek Smith]

paddyhasneeds said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15809742

I don't quite get the problem if I'm honest. Protesters won't leave, Dean calls Police, Police don't take any st and get rid of the protesters in what seems a reasonably non-violent way (it being the US and all that).

I'm a bit confused by your definition of non-violent. Pepper spray is an assualt and a rather serious one at that. If you try that on a member of the public then you are likely to be imprisoned for a first offence.

A PC who merely pushed a demonstrator is up for trial in this country.

If we leave the moral and legal side alone for the moment, what about the effect on those who see such violence being used on apparently passive demonstrators. Do you think it is likely to stop demonstrators attending or convince the waverers that they should actually do something?

The demonstrators now have a cause celebre. or rather a choice, there's the 84 year old granny as well.

[ZOLLAR]

It's always nice to have some short video clips to stimulate debate..





although this isn't related directly to the University incident It is in my opinion a great little clip.

[chrisj_abz]

the company i work for have their headquarters in Davis, so ive been there a few times..

You couldnt really get a more laid back town to be honest, very quiet place even with a huge uni campus there, hardly any problems so maybe the police were a bit excited to be donning the riot gear..

[AJS-]

ZOLLAR said:

It's always nice to have some short video clips to stimulate debate..
although this isn't related directly to the University incident It is in my opinion a great little clip.

Although it's a terrible affront to civil liberties, the right to free assembly and expression etc, I really am enjoying those...

[Frankeh]

ZOLLAR said:

although this isn't related directly to the University incident It is in my opinion a great little clip.

I love that. Got a source?

'fk YOU'

'Nope, fk you.' (spray)

[eybic]

That 2nd one is awesome, hahahahaha

[ZOLLAR]

Frankeh said:

ZOLLAR said:

although this isn't related directly to the University incident It is in my opinion a great little clip.

I love that. Got a source?

'fk YOU'

'Nope, fk you.' (spray)

Pepper spray facial



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063181/Th...

[AJS-]

At risk of turning this into a hippy bashing soft porn thread, this is fun



No tear gas here, but a white person with dreadlocks getting a hard time.

[ZOLLAR]

AJS- said:

At risk of turning this into a hippy bashing soft porn thread, this is fun



No tear gas here, but a white person with dreadlocks getting a hard time.

The cop with the hand over the face is quite clearly smiling!
By the way is that a male or female protestor?

[paddyhasneeds]

Derek Smith said:

I'm a bit confused by your definition of non-violent. Pepper spray is an assualt and a rather serious one at that. If you try that on a member of the public then you are likely to be imprisoned for a first offence.

A PC who merely pushed a demonstrator is up for trial in this country.

If we leave the moral and legal side alone for the moment, what about the effect on those who see such violence being used on apparently passive demonstrators. Do you think it is likely to stop demonstrators attending or convince the waverers that they should actually do something?

The demonstrators now have a cause celebre. or rather a choice, there's the 84 year old granny as well.

Derek, what would you suggest as a first resort when presumably "please" doesn't work?

[AJS-]

Female mother of four who had left her kids and husband (who works for a bank) in Florida to go and protest against selfish people...

Article in the Mail, but I lost the link

[y2blade]

ZOLLAR said:

Frankeh said:

ZOLLAR said:

although this isn't related directly to the University incident It is in my opinion a great little clip.

I love that. Got a source?

'fk YOU'

'Nope, fk you.' (spray)

Pepper spray facial



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063181/Th...

I love it

take that you crusty f******s!!!! now get a job

[neilr]

I'm assuming all of you who have so vocally supported the police actions won't be making any complaint (on PH at least) about police brutality or misuse for powers etc when the recipients aren't students or crusty workshy layabouts in the future then?

[King Herald]

AJS- said:

At risk of turning this into a hippy bashing soft porn thread, this is fun



No tear gas here, but a white person with dreadlocks getting a hard time.

Aha, the old eye-gouging accident trick.

"Yes, I am aware she is now blind in one eye, yer 'onour,. My finger must have slipped whilst I was preventing the defendant from trying to bite my colleagues..."