XR4i or XR4i 4x4 were they ever any good?
XR4i or XR4i 4x4 were they ever any good?
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Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

221 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Saw one of these still on the road this weekend did look in great original condition it was the basic XR4i.

How did they compare against their competition which in guessing was the Orion SRi130 or the Montaego Turbo Renault 21 turbo. Did it really cut the mustard

Clinton Baptiste

657 posts

205 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Slow, under powered and drank petrol like you wouldn't believe, i loved mine!

Six Fiend

6,067 posts

238 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Orion? Nope, maybe Cavalier SRi130 (you're drinking again aren't you smile )


Nedzilla

2,439 posts

197 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Drinks fuel and eats gearboxes was how they were summarized by performance car magazine back in the 90s IIRC!

ZeeTacoe

5,444 posts

245 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Not as good as the 1.6diesel,not enough torques as I remember

Dimski

2,100 posts

222 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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ZeeTacoe said:
Not as good as the 1.6diesel,not enough torques as I remember
I thought early diesels were 2.3 (with a whole 53bhp!), and later on used 1.8 and 1.8 turbo engines, I didn't know they used 1.6.

My dad had a Ghia X 2.9 4x4 Estate. He loved it, although by the time rust killed it in the French alpes it was doing less than 10mpg. hehe He thought it was fairly swift at the time...

daemon

38,938 posts

220 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Clinton Baptiste said:
Slow, under powered and drank petrol like you wouldn't believe, i loved mine!
I sold one for a friend recently. Had it around me for a month or two.

Lovely car. He totally refurbished this one. Felt very heavy though and quite slow. Not really nimble in any way.

It was a rare facelifted one.

Sold for £1900..


falkster

4,258 posts

226 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Maybe not that quick but they sounded ace! Not as quick as an SRi 130.

Turbo Harry

5,194 posts

260 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Was it a 2.0 or a 2.8 you were looking at?

falkster

4,258 posts

226 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Turbo Harry said:
Was it a 2.0 or a 2.8 you were looking at?
I don't think most people ever actually recognised the 2ltr, just the 2.8/2.9s.

ZeeTacoe

5,444 posts

245 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Dimski said:
ZeeTacoe said:
Not as good as the 1.6diesel,not enough torques as I remember
I thought early diesels were 2.3 (with a whole 53bhp!), and later on used 1.8 and 1.8 turbo engines, I didn't know they used 1.6.

My dad had a Ghia X 2.9 4x4 Estate. He loved it, although by the time rust killed it in the French alpes it was doing less than 10mpg. hehe He thought it was fairly swift at the time...
Whoops. I thought they did a 1.6. I must have been thinking about the 1.3 petrol they did.

T66ORA

3,474 posts

280 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Bought mine in 1985,it was a 84 model, still got it today, it was used for traveling from Faslane, about 20 miles west of Glasgow, to Portsmouth regularly.
Slow?laugh it would take something special to out run it on the motorway in the mid eighties, it would CRUISE at 110mph all day, with the occasional flat out stint of c130+ and 20mpg, the top end of the A74/M6 was empty in those days, the most memorable journey was around 1986 i friend of mine had just bought a Sierra Cosworth, myself, and another "boatmate" who had a 82 Porsche 944 "convoyed" down to the north west at very high speed, a journey we reminisce about when ever we meet upbiggrin Great tourer? yes, not a sports car, fantastic car in its day.thumbup



Camaro91

2,675 posts

189 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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My dad had the 5-door XR4x4i, I thought it was so cool at the time, I would love to own one.

One day, he proudly announced 'I've traded it in for a Fiat Uno'... that was a bad day.

Doofus

33,130 posts

196 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Welshbeef said:
Saw one of these still on the road this weekend did look in great original condition it was the basic XR4i
You're quite young, aren't you wink

The XR4i wat a 3 door hatch, and the XR4x4 was a five door. They weren't 'base' and 'better' spec; they were two different models. The 4x4 replaced the 4i.

I had a Montego Turbo, which, it seems, was the UK's attempt to muscle in on the contemporary US market. By which I mean that it was jolly fast in a straight line, and completely hopeless at absolutely everything else.

seagrey

385 posts

188 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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I had a red Turbo Techniques tt xr4x4 a few years back,it was the car that I got banned for speeding in.
It was infinitely quicker than the cossies around at the time,as the traffic cop trying to catch me in one would testifybiggrin
giving it the beans would see the fuel consumption drop easily into single figures.

s m

24,170 posts

226 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Welshbeef said:
Saw one of these still on the road this weekend did look in great original condition it was the basic XR4i.

How did they compare against their competition which in guessing was the Orion SRi130 or the Montaego Turbo Renault 21 turbo. Did it really cut the mustard
Think the XR4i was up against stuff like the Audi Coupe, E30 323i, GTV6 Alfa, Supra 2.8i and RX7 - at least, those are the cars often compared to it in mag tests of the time.

The later 5-dr XR4x4 was compared to stuff like the 90 quattro, 405 Mi16x4, 325iX, etc

Steffan

10,362 posts

251 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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I had two XR4i's in the early eighties and two XR 4X4 sierra's mid eighties.

The XR4i was a very quick car (for its time) in a straight line, Corners were a bit of a challenge. In the wet it was a real handful.

I really enjoyed the cars the 5th speed pull from 60 to 90 was like nothing else I had driven then. Very flexible from 20mph in 5th to 130 ish.

The XR 4X4's were just as quick but much better handling.

Wet or dry these were very quick and cornered extremely well.

However the fuel consumption on the 4x4's was diabolical often below 20MPG.

The XR4i was quite good on fuel.

I assume it was the drag on the four wheel drive. Same bodyshape.

Went onto V8 SD1's then.

The 3.5 Rover Vitesse SD1 was and remains one of the best long distance cruisers, workhorses and family barges I ever had.

Quality control was variable but the engine and handling was quite outstanding. Very comfortable trimmed in leather and a big hatchback to boot.

To this day. I would happily buy another.





Edited by Steffan on Sunday 20th November 22:52

s m

24,170 posts

226 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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falkster said:
Maybe not that quick but they sounded ace! Not as quick as an SRi 130.
I guess you're comparing to XR4x4 not the earlier 2wd XR4i .

The 4i was at least as quick as the SRi 130 ( unless you're meaning the much later 2 litre XR4i 5-door ? )

Straight line performance of the 5-dr XR4x4 was slowed by the 4wd transmission

Edited by s m on Sunday 20th November 22:50

blearyeyedboy

6,752 posts

202 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Dimski said:
I thought early diesels were 2.3 (with a whole 53bhp!)
Don't I know it. When I was a teenager, my mum inherited my dad's previous knackered repmobile that the company sold to him, and my brother and I push-started that fking ing useless bd of a car everywhere.

I wasn't sorry to see it go. shoot

As for the XR4i... I lost my toy one aged 7 and I'm still distraught by it. frown

s m

24,170 posts

226 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Steffan said:
I had two XR4i's in the early eighties and two XR 4X4 sierra's mid eighties.


The XR4i was quite good on fuel.
I ran a 4i and a 309GTi alongside each other in the mid 90s - used to use them both for the same B-road/dc journeys and there was very little in it mpg wise - both doing about 30 mpg but the XR much more relaxed on the faster sections