Zebra Pedestrian Crossings !

[Tonyrec]

Everyday whilst out on patrol we see people committing basic Offences on Zebra Crossings.

Does anyone know, how many Offences can be committed on a Zebra Crossing?

If so, what are they and how are they dealt with.

[jamescarter1981]

i can think of two right now, which is failing to give way (FPN N i think) and parking in controlled area (FPN E)

[jeremyc]

Tonyrec said:

Does anyone know, how many Offences can be committed on a Zebra Crossing?

Indecent exposure?

Whilst we're talking about them, what makes a Zebra Crossing a Zebra Crossing? If the road markings, zig-zag lines and belisha beacons are all present, but the beacons don't flash is it still treated as a crossing?

[Davel]

Dressing all in black, like a ninja and playing 'now you see me, now you don't'?

[mcflurry]

Tonyrec said:

Does anyone know, how many Offences can be committed on a Zebra Crossing?

Tourists walking over the zebra crossing mimicing a famous album of the 1960s'...

[kevinday]

Add overtaking within the area controlled by the crossing (within the zig-zags), speeding (of course), dangerous driving, DW/oDC, plus many more I expect

[jamescarter1981]

Murder, Rape, Manslaughter, Theft, Robbery, TDA, all can be committed on a zebra crossing. All have nothing to do with the zebra crossing.

[john_p]

This reminds me of that Trigger Happy TV sketch .. when Dom Joly dresses up as a snail and slowly crawls his way across the zebra crossing ..

If anyone's got the Trigger Happy 3 DVD, watch the "outtakes" bit, when you discover that in one of the takes, he got halfway across, before two BiB get out of a panda car 3 cars back and put an end to that little joke

[chris1roll]

starting to drive across before teh last person crossing has set both feet on the pavement. see that all the time.

[streaky]

Pedestrians ignoring the fact that a pedestrian crossing with a centre refuge is actually TWO separate crossings. But, hey, that's not an offence likely to get them three points and a £60 fine. Maybe Aldershot magistrates could be persuaded to hand out some driving bans to pedestrians ... that would be a joke (not!) - Streaky

[BliarOut]

Buggery?

[bad company]

I witnessed somebody overtake on the crossing and zig zag lines not 20 minutes ago. There's never a police car about when you want one.

[DustyC]

Tonyrec said:

Everyday whilst out on patrol we see people committing basic Offences on Zebra Crossings. Does anyone know, how many Offences can be committed on a Zebra Crossing? If so, what are they and how are they dealt with.

I'd guess at
1. Overtaking
2. Parking (waiting, whatever) on the zig zags
3. Not giving way to pedestrains.
4. The obvious like speeding, etc. which are illaegal elsewhere anyway.

Cant think of any more so tell us.

[Tonyrec]

Heres my list -:

The Zebra Pedestrian Crossings Regs 1971

1) Reg 8 Failing to Accord Precedence (FPNE)
2) Reg 9(1) Parking Within Limits ( FPNE)
3) REG 10(a) Overtaking leading MOVING motor vehicle
within zig- zags (Report for Summons)
4) Reg 10(b) Overtaking LEADING stationary vehicle
according precedence (Report for Summons)
5) Reg 12 Parking within Zig-zags (FPNE).

This is my list

[blademan]

Tonyrec said:

Heres my list -: The Zebra Pedestrian Crossings Regs 1971 1) Reg 8 Failing to Accord Precedence (FPNE) 2) Reg 9(1) Parking Within Limits ( FPNE) 3) REG 10(a) Overtaking leading MOVING motor vehicle within zig- zags (Report for Summons) 4) Reg 10(b) Overtaking LEADING stationary vehicle according precedence (Report for Summons) 5) Reg 12 Parking within Zig-zags (FPNE). This is my list

Tonyrec.
Is 1) true, in that you can actually be nicked for not stopping at a zebra crossing. Does this still apply if the person has not quite stopped at the crossing?
Always stop myself, but didn't know it was a nickable offence

[Mr2Mike]

Tonyrec said:

2) Reg 9(1) Parking Within Limits ( FPNE) 5) Reg 12 Parking within Zig-zags (FPNE).

What's the difference between these two?

[streaky]

Tonyrec said:

Heres my list -: The Zebra Pedestrian Crossings Regs 1971 1) Reg 8 Failing to Accord Precedence (FPNE) 2) Reg 9(1) Parking Within Limits ( FPNE) 3) REG 10(a) Overtaking leading MOVING motor vehicle within zig- zags (Report for Summons) 4) Reg 10(b) Overtaking LEADING stationary vehicle according precedence (Report for Summons) 5) Reg 12 Parking within Zig-zags (FPNE). This is my list

For an example where these could cause problems - Streaky

Updated to fix incorrect link

>> Edited by streaky on Saturday 26th June 05:19

[Tonyrec]

blademan said:

Tonyrec said: Heres my list -: The Zebra Pedestrian Crossings Regs 1971 1) Reg 8 Failing to Accord Precedence (FPNE) 2) Reg 9(1) Parking Within Limits ( FPNE) 3) REG 10(a) Overtaking leading MOVING motor vehicle within zig- zags (Report for Summons) 4) Reg 10(b) Overtaking LEADING stationary vehicle according precedence (Report for Summons) 5) Reg 12 Parking within Zig-zags (FPNE). This is my list Tonyrec. Is 1) true, in that you can actually be nicked for not stopping at a zebra crossing. Does this still apply if the person has not quite stopped at the crossing? Always stop myself, but didn't know it was a nickable offence

Yes it is true, as soon as the person starts to cross and places a foot on the crossing then you commit the Offence.

Ive seen, as im sure you have, lots of examples where theres been people on the Crossing and cars drive past them.

[nick_f]

Don't forget the special addenda to Regs 8 and 10 which make it clear that cyclists to not have to comply with either requirement.

These are often forgotten, and frequently give rise to conflict when ignorant pedestrians fail to give way to cyclists on zebra crossings.

[bogush]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Now, I was going to post this query in the obstruction thread, but this is the perfect place for it:

gone said:

1 = Obstruction of the Highway- Highways Act 1980, Sect 137 Power of arrest under Sect 25 PACE general conditions of arrest. states If a person without lawful authority or reasonable excuse, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a highway he is guilty of an offence... 3 = Obstruction of Street -Town Policce Clauses Act 1847 Sect 28 states Every person who in any street, to the obstruction, annoyance, or danger of the residents or passengers, ....wilfully interrupts any public crossing, or wilfully causes any obstruction in any public footpath or other public thoroughfare...

So, what offenses can the pedestrians commit?

And more to the point, have any of the BiB ever charged a pedestrian with loitering on a zebra, or pushing the button on a pelican and walking off/crossing on the red man causing traffic to stop unneccessarily, or anything else, for that matter?