Stolen bike, 3rd party only, finance outstanding....
Stolen bike, 3rd party only, finance outstanding....
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SamPet

Original Poster:

485 posts

217 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Well you live and learn!

Left the house this morning to find my motorbike had been stolen. Due to the unpalatable insurance renewal cost, I opted for 3rd party only. I have just over 2years of finance on the bike.

Question is, and I think I know the answer, is there any sensible way I can avoid paying another 2 years of finance on a bike I no longer have?

Self-loathed thanks in advance

Sam

ikarl

3,863 posts

220 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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nope. think you need to just suck it up!

marcosgt

11,413 posts

197 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Bad news - Are you sure it's PURE 3rd Party? I didn't know you could such cover anymore.

M.

Monkeylegend

28,221 posts

252 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Is there a clause in your HP finance agreement specifying what insurance cover they require you to take out during the period of the loan?

SamPet

Original Poster:

485 posts

217 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Monkeylegend said:
Is there a clause in your HP finance agreement specifying what insurance cover they require you to take out during the period of the loan?
Maybe!

I didn't think about that at renewal time, but I am now!


BriC175

961 posts

201 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Unlucky. Was it that much more expensive to get fire and theft added also? I know for my car insurance when I've checked it's been about £50 difference max!

dibblecorse

7,263 posts

213 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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I suspect life is about to get worse, if the finance is on the bike, ie not a simple loan then you'll find a clause requiring you to have the bike insured fully comp, I suspect once the finance company discovers the bike has been stolen and they'll need informing, that they will demand settling of the balance as there is no longer any security for their loan.

Crap news mate but be preapred to go get a bank loan if need be to settle the finance.

SamPet

Original Poster:

485 posts

217 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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dibblecorse said:
I suspect life is about to get worse, if the finance is on the bike, ie not a simple loan then you'll find a clause requiring you to have the bike insured fully comp, I suspect once the finance company discovers the bike has been stolen and they'll need informing, that they will demand settling of the balance as there is no longer any security for their loan.

Crap news mate but be preapred to go get a bank loan if need be to settle the finance.
That I did not want to hear

wackojacko

8,581 posts

211 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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frown sorry to hear this but I didn't think insurance company's/finance deals allowed anything less than fully comp insurance......

lazyitus

19,930 posts

287 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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SamPet said:
Monkeylegend said:
Is there a clause in your HP finance agreement specifying what insurance cover they require you to take out during the period of the loan?
Maybe!

I didn't think about that at renewal time, but I am now!
Most, if not all HP require fully comp, I think.

Sorry to hear of your predicament.

If ever there was a thread which highlights that GAP or Retail Price Protection cover can be a good thing or not, it's this. (No doubt there are still some who maintain it's a 'waste of money, a con' etc)

Monkeylegend

28,221 posts

252 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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I thought they would require fully comprehensive cover, but I am probably wrong. Keep your fingers crossed that the bike is found and returned to you without too much damage, although it will possibly be in bits by now.

Tyre Tread

10,650 posts

237 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Time to sell the XJ6 then eh?

R1 Indy

4,473 posts

204 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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sorry to sound harsh.

But why do you think the finance company should take the hit because you didn't insure it properly?

You will have to continue paying, and have nothing to show for it.

Get some proper insurance on the new one!

Monkeylegend

28,221 posts

252 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Monkeylegend said:
I thought they would require fully comprehensive cover, but I am probably wrong. Keep your fingers crossed that the bike is found and returned to you without too much damage, although it will possibly be in bits by now.
Didn't mean to repeat the above posts, bit slow on the typing front.

Oi_Oi_Savaloy

2,314 posts

281 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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If you have to settle the loan then I think the best course of action would be to pay it off (assuming you don't have savings) with a credit card and then immediately take out another credit card in order to balance tranfer it onto 0%. This assumes you can't go 0% immediately.

Yes I realise you'll pay 2-3% of the balance for the transfer but at least it will give you breathing space and any monthly payments you make will be paying capital down.

Cut the card up by the way.

Just a thought - others will have different ideas.

SamPet

Original Poster:

485 posts

217 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Oi_Oi_Savaloy said:
If you have to settle the loan then I think the best course of action would be to pay it off (assuming you don't have savings) with a credit card and then immediately take out another credit card in order to balance tranfer it onto 0%. This assumes you can't go 0% immediately.

Yes I realise you'll pay 2-3% of the balance for the transfer but at least it will give you breathing space and any monthly payments you make will be paying capital down.

Cut the card up by the way.

Just a thought - others will have different ideas.
The finance on the bike is 0% over 4 years. I've been paying for just under 2. I doubt it, but wonder if they'd allow me to continue to pay until the end of the term (as I have been thus far)?

Sam

y2blade

56,251 posts

236 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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SamPet said:
Maybe!

I didn't think about that at renewal time, but I am now!
Sorry to hear this frown

Live and learn frown


jamiebae

6,245 posts

232 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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BriC175 said:
Unlucky. Was it that much more expensive to get fire and theft added also? I know for my car insurance when I've checked it's been about £50 difference max!
When I last had a bike it was £100 a year TPO and £400 TPFT so a big difference.

OP, you have 2 options. Just keep paying as if nothing has happened, or tell the finance co and stump up the full settlement figure. One is legally correct, and one isn't, your call.

Monkeylegend

28,221 posts

252 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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jamiebae said:
BriC175 said:
Unlucky. Was it that much more expensive to get fire and theft added also? I know for my car insurance when I've checked it's been about £50 difference max!
When I last had a bike it was £100 a year TPO and £400 TPFT so a big difference.

OP, you have 2 options. Just keep paying as if nothing has happened, or tell the finance co and stump up the full settlement figure. One is legally correct, and one isn't, your call.
Be careful with this OP, you have your name and location in your profile and you have posted for the world to see.

y2blade

56,251 posts

236 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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maybe take your full name out of your profile too.