Fog lights dangerous
Discussion
Am I the only one that thinks rear fog lights are dangerous in light fog/mist on motorways?
Coming back from London on the M40 last night when I decided, these are not a good idea...
They ruin the effectiveness of brake lights and I'm sure degrade your perception of distance.
I'm all for them on foggy back roads but in a stream of heavy motorway traffic they're not needed.
Discuss ;-)
Coming back from London on the M40 last night when I decided, these are not a good idea...
They ruin the effectiveness of brake lights and I'm sure degrade your perception of distance.
I'm all for them on foggy back roads but in a stream of heavy motorway traffic they're not needed.
Discuss ;-)
If there is someone behind you then as long as you can see them, they see you you don't need fog-lights on.
If the last person in a queue or line of traffic then yea put them on till someone catches you, then when they are near put them off.
You often see queues of cars at rush hour all/most with rear fogs on sitting behind each other or going at a few mph, surely they can see the car in front no problem, and know that surely the car behind can see them, so why have lights designed for use in low visisbilty?
Should be simple really, why so few can work it out I've no idea.
If the last person in a queue or line of traffic then yea put them on till someone catches you, then when they are near put them off.
You often see queues of cars at rush hour all/most with rear fogs on sitting behind each other or going at a few mph, surely they can see the car in front no problem, and know that surely the car behind can see them, so why have lights designed for use in low visisbilty?
Should be simple really, why so few can work it out I've no idea.
mrloudly said:
Am I the only one that thinks rear fog lights are dangerous in light fog/mist on motorways?
Coming back from London on the M40 last night when I decided, these are not a good idea...
They ruin the effectiveness of brake lights and I'm sure degrade your perception of distance.
I'm all for them on foggy back roads but in a stream of heavy motorway traffic they're not needed.
Discuss ;-)
Agreed, rear fogs in a line of close traffic are not needed I feel only the guy at the back of the line of traffic.Coming back from London on the M40 last night when I decided, these are not a good idea...
They ruin the effectiveness of brake lights and I'm sure degrade your perception of distance.
I'm all for them on foggy back roads but in a stream of heavy motorway traffic they're not needed.
Discuss ;-)
People often though put on and forget they even have them on.
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Generally we do not get the pea souper fogs we used to get in the pre Clean Air Acts, back in the 1950's.
There were impenetrable fogs then caused by the smoking coal fires everywhere which were simply undriveable in their density.
I remember getting lost crossing the road in such a fog in the daylight and being literally unable to see my hand at arms length in front of my face.
I ended up following the kerb to a driveway and not being able to see the gate on the house in the daylight until I stepped the four feet or so from the kerb.
Totally undriveable conditions.
A bus crawled past with the conductor and a passenger leading the bus on foot in front.
Modern fogs are nowhere near as bad.
Unfortunately any warning light in heavy fog makes other features less distinguishable.
But the rear fog lights do help rear protection.
Like most choices it cuts both ways.
There were impenetrable fogs then caused by the smoking coal fires everywhere which were simply undriveable in their density.
I remember getting lost crossing the road in such a fog in the daylight and being literally unable to see my hand at arms length in front of my face.
I ended up following the kerb to a driveway and not being able to see the gate on the house in the daylight until I stepped the four feet or so from the kerb.
Totally undriveable conditions.
A bus crawled past with the conductor and a passenger leading the bus on foot in front.
Modern fogs are nowhere near as bad.
Unfortunately any warning light in heavy fog makes other features less distinguishable.
But the rear fog lights do help rear protection.
Like most choices it cuts both ways.
JM said:
If there is someone behind you then as long as you can see them, they see you you don't need fog-lights on.
If the last person in a queue or line of traffic then yea put them on till someone catches you, then when they are near put them off.
You often see queues of cars at rush hour all/most with rear fogs on sitting behind each other or going at a few mph, surely they can see the car in front no problem, and know that surely the car behind can see them, so why have lights designed for use in low visisbilty?
Should be simple really, why so few can work it out I've no idea.
It's so bleeding obvious isn't it. If the last person in a queue or line of traffic then yea put them on till someone catches you, then when they are near put them off.
You often see queues of cars at rush hour all/most with rear fogs on sitting behind each other or going at a few mph, surely they can see the car in front no problem, and know that surely the car behind can see them, so why have lights designed for use in low visisbilty?
Should be simple really, why so few can work it out I've no idea.
If you don't follow the above simple rules, then I'm afraid...
Steffan said:
Generally we do not get the pea souper fogs we used to get in the pre Clean Air Acts, back in the 1950's.
There were impenetrable fogs then caused by the smoking coal fires everywhere which were simply undriveable in their density.
I remember getting lost crossing the road in such a fog in the daylight and being literally unable to see my hand at arms length in front of my face.
I ended up following the kerb to a driveway and not being able to see the gate on the house in the daylight until I stepped the four feet or so from the kerb.
Totally undriveable conditions.
A bus crawled past with the conductor and a passenger leading the bus on foot in front.
Modern fogs are nowhere near as bad.
Unfortunately any warning light in heavy fog makes other features less distinguishable.
But the rear fog lights do help rear protection.
Like most choices it cuts both ways.
I was thinking about this tother day... I've lived in pretty much the same rural area for nearly fifty years. You're right, the fog is nowhere near as bad as it used to be, butThere were impenetrable fogs then caused by the smoking coal fires everywhere which were simply undriveable in their density.
I remember getting lost crossing the road in such a fog in the daylight and being literally unable to see my hand at arms length in front of my face.
I ended up following the kerb to a driveway and not being able to see the gate on the house in the daylight until I stepped the four feet or so from the kerb.
Totally undriveable conditions.
A bus crawled past with the conductor and a passenger leading the bus on foot in front.
Modern fogs are nowhere near as bad.
Unfortunately any warning light in heavy fog makes other features less distinguishable.
But the rear fog lights do help rear protection.
Like most choices it cuts both ways.
then I gotta thinking.. Rural areas never really had smogs and there's more solid fuel fires now than ever... So why isn't the fog as bad??? My conclusion... It is, but modern
lights are a lot better at seeing thru it...
mrloudly said:
Am I the only one that thinks rear fog lights are dangerous in light fog/mist on motorways?
Coming back from London on the M40 last night when I decided, these are not a good idea...
They ruin the effectiveness of brake lights and I'm sure degrade your perception of distance.
I'm all for them on foggy back roads but in a stream of heavy motorway traffic they're not needed.
Discuss ;-)
I was driving back from Luton Airport the same night & I didn't think that the fog was that bad, yet nearly everyone had their fog lights on. Coming back from London on the M40 last night when I decided, these are not a good idea...
They ruin the effectiveness of brake lights and I'm sure degrade your perception of distance.
I'm all for them on foggy back roads but in a stream of heavy motorway traffic they're not needed.
Discuss ;-)
JM said:
If there is someone behind you then as long as you can see them, they see you you don't need fog-lights on.
If the last person in a queue or line of traffic then yea put them on till someone catches you, then when they are near put them off.
You often see queues of cars at rush hour all/most with rear fogs on sitting behind each other or going at a few mph, surely they can see the car in front no problem, and know that surely the car behind can see them, so why have lights designed for use in low visisbilty?
Should be simple really, why so few can work it out I've no idea.
Unlike the muppet in their Fiesta this morning on the M4 who put their fog light as I approached and turned it of as I was passing, wtf? If the last person in a queue or line of traffic then yea put them on till someone catches you, then when they are near put them off.
You often see queues of cars at rush hour all/most with rear fogs on sitting behind each other or going at a few mph, surely they can see the car in front no problem, and know that surely the car behind can see them, so why have lights designed for use in low visisbilty?
Should be simple really, why so few can work it out I've no idea.
It wasn't even light mist.
Mongs.
JM said:
If there is someone behind you then as long as you can see them, they see you you don't need fog-lights on.
If the above was true then the following car might only be 10cm of your back bumper by the time you can see it! I personally try and follow the highway code. Helps avoiding being run over by a 40 tonne artic.Highway code rule 226
You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced,
generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You
may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off
when visibility improves
mrloudly said:
I was thinking about this tother day... I've lived in pretty much the same rural area for nearly fifty years. You're right, the fog is nowhere near as bad as it used to be, but
then I gotta thinking.. Rural areas never really had smogs and there's more solid fuel fires now than ever... So why isn't the fog as bad??? My conclusion... It is, but modern
lights are a lot better at seeing thru it...
Modern solid fuel doesn't give off smoke and EVERY house had coal fires when I were a lad!then I gotta thinking.. Rural areas never really had smogs and there's more solid fuel fires now than ever... So why isn't the fog as bad??? My conclusion... It is, but modern
lights are a lot better at seeing thru it...
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