Why are Silicone Hoses so Expensive
Discussion
We have a very few suppliers of Silicone hoses for our Tiv's. So why is it that they charge so much for this simple product? For Example from most National car component suppliers a 90deg elbow costs £20 inc vat (blue,red or black) Yet "OUR" supplier cost £38 +VAT (Blue only) (Plus £10 for Red!). Admitedly "Our" supplier is cut to size but is that worth the extra. OR am I just being cheap 
They've got to pay for those glossy ads in "Sprint" some how ! 
Same old discussion really, be it silicone hoses, oil filters, wheel bearings or whatever, you pay your money and "support" the TVR specialists or shop around (motor factors, Ebay etc.) and take a chance on quality and parts being correct spec.
Same old discussion really, be it silicone hoses, oil filters, wheel bearings or whatever, you pay your money and "support" the TVR specialists or shop around (motor factors, Ebay etc.) and take a chance on quality and parts being correct spec.
phillpot said:
They've got to pay for those glossy ads in "Sprint" some how !
Same old discussion really, be it silicone hoses, oil filters, wheel bearings or whatever, you pay your money and "support" the TVR specialists or shop around (motor factors, Ebay etc.) and take a chance on quality and parts being correct spec.
now this I understand.... however when do we say enough profit and stop taking the p1Same old discussion really, be it silicone hoses, oil filters, wheel bearings or whatever, you pay your money and "support" the TVR specialists or shop around (motor factors, Ebay etc.) and take a chance on quality and parts being correct spec.
i for one don't want to lose our specialists 
Time taken to develope the product or locate them. Product insurance etc etc, all this wl be high for the Los volumes, and if you've ever had to get something Made you'll know there is a massive cost per unit difference if your having them made in 10s or 10,000s
Oh and a bit of profit to make it worthwhile
Oh and a bit of profit to make it worthwhile
Time taken to develope the product or locate them. Product insurance etc etc, all this wl be high for the Los volumes, and if you've ever had to get something Made you'll know there is a massive cost per unit difference if your having them made in 10s or 10,000s
Oh and a bit of profit to make it worthwhile
Oh and a bit of profit to make it worthwhile
Prices are dictated by manufacturer, simple as that, we have many of the hoses made on our own tooling this costs extra. There isn't any premium added.
When we set out to supply these for TVRs (about 11 years ago)it was tempting to add a bit, but we opted not to, it's a shame that it appears that we do.
Tim ACT
When we set out to supply these for TVRs (about 11 years ago)it was tempting to add a bit, but we opted not to, it's a shame that it appears that we do.
Tim ACT
I recently managed to acquire a few original TVR hoses. They are not always so cheap either; one hose (I already had that one replaced 2 years ago thankfully) was priced around £75.
I agree that the prices of silicone hose sets appear expensive, yet I don't doubt the accuracy of Mr. ACT's statement either.
As many will attest, when the cars were new, the prices were often much higher than today.
I recall being charged around £130 for a 'TVR' HT lead set, around £250 for a single Bilstein shock replacement (spring reused if memory serves), the list could go on...
TVR ownership was never supposed to be cheap, just fun
I agree that the prices of silicone hose sets appear expensive, yet I don't doubt the accuracy of Mr. ACT's statement either.
As many will attest, when the cars were new, the prices were often much higher than today.
I recall being charged around £130 for a 'TVR' HT lead set, around £250 for a single Bilstein shock replacement (spring reused if memory serves), the list could go on...
TVR ownership was never supposed to be cheap, just fun
Basic Economics with a touch of Marketing surely?
The price will be set at whatever the market will stand. It's not determined by the actual cost of manufacture. If demand falls, so will prices until it becomes uneconomic for the manufacturer to make any more.
Recent example: a set of nos Ferodo brake pads for a TR6 = £7.00.
The price will be set at whatever the market will stand. It's not determined by the actual cost of manufacture. If demand falls, so will prices until it becomes uneconomic for the manufacturer to make any more.
Recent example: a set of nos Ferodo brake pads for a TR6 = £7.00.
Naybr said:
Basic Economics with a touch of Marketing surely?
The price will be set at whatever the market will stand. It's not determined by the actual cost of manufacture. If demand falls, so will prices until it becomes uneconomic for the manufacturer to make any more.
Recent example: a set of nos Ferodo brake pads for a TR6 = £7.00.
For sure that is most often the case.The price will be set at whatever the market will stand. It's not determined by the actual cost of manufacture. If demand falls, so will prices until it becomes uneconomic for the manufacturer to make any more.
Recent example: a set of nos Ferodo brake pads for a TR6 = £7.00.
They will teach you that at any business school. Charging too little is often as bad (worse?) than charging too much.
The price we pay rarely relates to the cost of production, delivery and stocking, reselling.
You only have to look at the way Apple drip feeds minor changes into the market ramping the price as they go.
Or two different bottles of olives on a supermarket shelf; one at 75p/100g and the other at £4/100g.
One of my favourites; weasel puked coffee beans at £20/125g.
ACT said:
Prices are dictated by manufacturer, simple as that, we have many of the hoses made on our own tooling this costs extra. There isn't any premium added.
When we set out to supply these for TVRs (about 11 years ago)it was tempting to add a bit, but we opted not to, it's a shame that it appears that we do.
Tim ACT
TimWhen we set out to supply these for TVRs (about 11 years ago)it was tempting to add a bit, but we opted not to, it's a shame that it appears that we do.
Tim ACT
Any reason why we can't have any colour we want ?? Or at least a few colours more than Black, Blue, Red..... How about the colours of the rainbow as a starter - Orange, Yellow, Green, Indigo, Violet (or just Purple for the Indigo/Violet part of the spectrum)
I don't mind paying a bit extra..
RedSpike66 said:
Tim
Any reason why we can't have any colour we want ?? Or at least a few colours more than Black, Blue, Red..... How about the colours of the rainbow as a starter - Orange, Yellow, Green, Indigo, Violet (or just Purple for the Indigo/Violet part of the spectrum)
I don't mind paying a bit extra..
Yes you can have other colours, factory charge 20% extra for Purple, yellow, green, orange & white.Any reason why we can't have any colour we want ?? Or at least a few colours more than Black, Blue, Red..... How about the colours of the rainbow as a starter - Orange, Yellow, Green, Indigo, Violet (or just Purple for the Indigo/Violet part of the spectrum)
I don't mind paying a bit extra..
info should be on website I will make sure it's easy to see.
Goaty Bill said:
For sure that is most often the case.
They will teach you that at any business school. Charging too little is often as bad (worse?) than charging too much.
The price we pay rarely relates to the cost of production, delivery and stocking, reselling.
You only have to look at the way Apple drip feeds minor changes into the market ramping the price as they go.
Or two different bottles of olives on a supermarket shelf; one at 75p/100g and the other at £4/100g.
One of my favourites; weasel puked coffee beans at £20/125g.
GB,i hate to put you straight on this for fear of putting you off your favourite cuppa but they don't puke them but S**T them out !They will teach you that at any business school. Charging too little is often as bad (worse?) than charging too much.
The price we pay rarely relates to the cost of production, delivery and stocking, reselling.
You only have to look at the way Apple drip feeds minor changes into the market ramping the price as they go.
Or two different bottles of olives on a supermarket shelf; one at 75p/100g and the other at £4/100g.
One of my favourites; weasel puked coffee beans at £20/125g.
Goaty Bill said:
For sure that is most often the case.
They will teach you that at any business school. Charging too little is often as bad (worse?) than charging too much.
The price we pay rarely relates to the cost of production, delivery and stocking, reselling.
You only have to look at the way Apple drip feeds minor changes into the market ramping the price as they go.
Or two different bottles of olives on a supermarket shelf; one at 75p/100g and the other at £4/100g.
One of my favourites; weasel puked coffee beans at £20/125g.
Sadly these are likely to increase rather than decrease in price, manufacturing in the UK is getting more expensive, raw material, fuel, complying with regs and so on, our silicone hose suppliers haven't increased for a while and fingers crossed they won't in the near future. I would welcome a decrease but will eat my hat if it happens.They will teach you that at any business school. Charging too little is often as bad (worse?) than charging too much.
The price we pay rarely relates to the cost of production, delivery and stocking, reselling.
You only have to look at the way Apple drip feeds minor changes into the market ramping the price as they go.
Or two different bottles of olives on a supermarket shelf; one at 75p/100g and the other at £4/100g.
One of my favourites; weasel puked coffee beans at £20/125g.
markreilly said:
GB,i hate to put you straight on this for fear of putting you off your favourite cuppa but they don't puke them but S**T them out !
Wikipedia Weasel Coffee (excrement) agrees with you, Stephen Fry Weasel Coffee (Vomit) and Amazon Weasel Coffee (Vomit) do not.I always thought excrement myself, but I took Stephen Fry at his word.
To be fair, none of these sources can even agree on the country of origin, listing Cambodia, Vietnam and Indonesia, and one reference says monkey rather than weasel.
Maybe the coffee bean gatherers don't give s
t either way? 
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