Do you give more than you get (taxes)
Do you give more than you get (taxes)
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Cyder

7,190 posts

251 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Always helps if you put the link up so we can find out... whistle

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

235 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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27K down

Wheres my pet chav

If we are paying 27K then i want a pet chav

I can train them to mow the grass and things

hyperblue

2,914 posts

211 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Apparently I'm £5,457 out of pocket, though I suspect it's actually lot more than that. Also the calculator is assuming I take £3,000 in cash benefits?

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Happy to say that I now pay 0% tax to HMRC. I was in the top bracket before I left, and was not getting 27k's worth of indirect benefit.

So I fked off out of the shambles.

mackie1

8,169 posts

264 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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£27k/yr down here.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

191 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
27K down

Wheres my pet chav

If we are paying 27K then i want a pet chav

I can train them to mow the grass and things
yes plenty to go round but remember you will need to feed
a ballenced diet of McDonalds and Greggs to get the best from them ..but remember they are allmost nocturnal so dont expect any action before about 2 pm laugh

Edited by powerstroke on Wednesday 23 November 09:22

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

217 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Not surprised to find out I was losing out.

zcacogp

11,239 posts

275 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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£27,220 down.

Nice to know why we are working so hard, eh?


Oli.

ukwill

10,278 posts

238 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Its bollarx. Anything over £64,379 gives you the -27k figure...

Odie

4,187 posts

213 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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"These figures are averages for each decile, so it is possible that no one in your particular household receives them. Benefits include both cash benefits, including the retirement pension or child benefit, and benefits in kind, which includes public spending on health and education, amongst other things."

So the figures are fudged to look good. It somehow works out that a single male in employment receives benefits of £10,000 apart from free eye tests, NHS dentist & GP I get nothing.

Id say this calculation is complete bks. It doesnt include all the taxes we pay and puts a gloss on the whole situation, trying to change public perception of tax.



Edited by Odie on Wednesday 23 November 09:35

Maxf

8,444 posts

272 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Apparently I am (like everybody else) 27k down. I can't see what I actually do get though - I claim nothing, have no kids, have private healthcare (but DO have a very good GP, admittedly) and a private dentist.

I want a pet chav and an electric shock collar.

Eric Mc

125,855 posts

296 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Bing o said:
Happy to say that I now pay 0% tax to HMRC. I was in the top bracket before I left, and was not getting 27k's worth of indirect benefit.

So I fked off out of the shambles.
So where are you now?

Eric Mc

125,855 posts

296 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Maxf said:
Apparently I am (like everybody else) 27k down. I can't see what I actually do get though - I claim nothing, have no kids, have private healthcare (but DO have a very good GP, admittedly) and a private dentist.

I want a pet chav and an electric shock collar.
So you only wish to pay taxes that you can benefit directly from yourself?

rs1952

5,247 posts

290 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
Wheres my pet chav

If we are paying 27K then i want a pet chav

I can train them to mow the grass and things
You can hire one.

Put an advert in Sainsbury's

But word it rather better ..... wink

Biker's Nemesis

41,461 posts

239 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Whey hey......I'm 27k up!

J B L

4,217 posts

246 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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It's funny that by working less you are better off.

Since the birth of our daughter my wife has been part time (2 days off per week).

If whe was earning her full salary, we'd be at -27k. By earning 3/5 of her salary we are at -12.5k. I feel dirty for sponging the system boxedin

Eric Mc

125,855 posts

296 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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J B L said:
It's funny that by working less you are better off.

Since the birth of our daughter my wife has been part time (2 days off per week).

If whe was earning her full salary, we'd be at -27k. By earning 3/5 of her salary we are at -12.5k. I feel dirty for sponging the system boxedin
You can alway donate the surplus to charity.

turbobloke

117,477 posts

291 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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ukwill said:
Its bollarx. Anything over £64,379 gives you the -27k figure...
It's deciles smile

That's what happens.

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Bing o said:
Happy to say that I now pay 0% tax to HMRC. I was in the top bracket before I left, and was not getting 27k's worth of indirect benefit.

So I fked off out of the shambles.
So where are you now?
Somewhere that doesn't mug you everytime you get a wage slip. In fact, I pay my 2011 taxes in 2012, and even then, it's in installments.

Income tax should by capped at a max of 20% IMO. The increase in consumption and associated taxes as a result would make up the shortfall from the income tax bill as well as stimulating economic growth. The UK's myopic obsession with taxing the wealthy more and more is totally destructive to both the economy and society. It's so fking obvious, but no-one can see it. Most curious.

Maxf

8,444 posts

272 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Maxf said:
Apparently I am (like everybody else) 27k down. I can't see what I actually do get though - I claim nothing, have no kids, have private healthcare (but DO have a very good GP, admittedly) and a private dentist.

I want a pet chav and an electric shock collar.
So you only wish to pay taxes that you can benefit directly from yourself?
Not at all. I'm not wealthy by any stretch, live in a shared flat in London but seem to pay the best part of £30k into a massive pot which I have no doubt is largely wasted.

I don't begrudge paying taxes. I very much begrudge the money I pay being wasted on chavs, quangos, hairbrained schemes and idiocy. I work hard for them to waste that.