Parking in a disabled bay.....
Discussion
As ever the comments section is funnier than the article:
disabled people don't drive real cars then? Only a Ford Focus. I often use disabled bays and parent/child bays why should I get my door banged? And yes I'm disabled, I wear glasses and have a child she is 34.
- Toto Kubwa, Cyprus, 28/11/2011 8:30
disabled people don't drive real cars then? Only a Ford Focus. I often use disabled bays and parent/child bays why should I get my door banged? And yes I'm disabled, I wear glasses and have a child she is 34.
- Toto Kubwa, Cyprus, 28/11/2011 8:30
Corsair7 said:
Sorry that was me. I just had to nip inside and use the disabled toilet.Ya mad?
This is a peach:
"The guy owns a car which cost nearly a million quid, he isnt going to be phased by a £60 parking ticket. Also, why should disabled people be treated with such royalty, when half of them are just faking it anyway? If anyone should be given priority and good parking spaces its the workers of this country."
Nuremberg Rally?
Sure mate, just carry on down the Straße and it's first left after the Geheime Staatspolizei office. Just follow the searchlights, you can't miss it.
"The guy owns a car which cost nearly a million quid, he isnt going to be phased by a £60 parking ticket. Also, why should disabled people be treated with such royalty, when half of them are just faking it anyway? If anyone should be given priority and good parking spaces its the workers of this country."
Nuremberg Rally?
Sure mate, just carry on down the Straße and it's first left after the Geheime Staatspolizei office. Just follow the searchlights, you can't miss it.
the comments are hilairous!
but at the end of the day if your not disabled dont park in them.
although it always make me chuckle when i see 'sports cars' in disabled spots. (with the badge)
so you can get into a car thats two inch of the floor but you cant walk an extra 20 meters?
come off it!
but at the end of the day if your not disabled dont park in them.
although it always make me chuckle when i see 'sports cars' in disabled spots. (with the badge)
so you can get into a car thats two inch of the floor but you cant walk an extra 20 meters?
come off it!
"Hopefully this arrogant idiot will become disabled one day and find it difficult to walk let alone park a car."
What a nice person this soul must be. Wishing somebody to become disabled because they were naughty and parked where they shouldn't of. They've been punished the same way anybody else illegally parked there would have been so I don't see the issue!
What a nice person this soul must be. Wishing somebody to become disabled because they were naughty and parked where they shouldn't of. They've been punished the same way anybody else illegally parked there would have been so I don't see the issue!
plfrench said:
Thing is, how much of a deterrent is a £60 fine or whatever for illegally parking if you can afford a Veyron? If there was a % of income related fine, then it would be more effective I'm sure - along the lines of corporate fines for anti-competitive activity etc.
Yes you're right, the article says the man was 'unconcerned' by the fine which is hardly surprising. If i had that sort of money i wouldnt be fussed by a fine and would just pay the fines in one go at the end of every month. Footballers do it, if you took parking fines from footballers out of council's coffers they'd have to start cutting bin collections. I dont agree with income related fines though, just as i dont agree with them for if you lose an appeal for allegedly driving whilst using a phone, someone who goes to work and has money gets a bigger fine than some scrote who gets let off practically for free. The offence is the same regardless of how much you earn, i dont see how can offence become suddenly a worse offence or worthy of more punishment just because the offender has money. What a strange country this'd be if we applied that to all law.
Seeing as only 1% of people have the sort of money for daily parking fines to be a non-issue i dont think its particularly important tbh.
But it works in business... Saint-Gobain had a record fine of around £800 million (might even have been slightly more) a couple of years back as a result of one of its glazing businesses being found guilty of price fixing.
They wouldn't have applied that fine to a bunch of local dairies who were found to be in a cartel.
Perhaps, as in the case of businesses, a first offense would be able to get away with the standard fine, but subsequent offences should then attract income related fines to avoid those with sufficient money buying their way round the law.
They wouldn't have applied that fine to a bunch of local dairies who were found to be in a cartel.
Perhaps, as in the case of businesses, a first offense would be able to get away with the standard fine, but subsequent offences should then attract income related fines to avoid those with sufficient money buying their way round the law.
Just because something works in one sector means nothing, it doesnt mean it'd work elsewhere. But at the end of the day its still just parking a car. Not like corperate crime or price fixing is it? Generally in business if you commit some kind of deception then you're profiting from it, usually quite considerably. Totally different ball game to parking a car. Parking is a civil offence anyway, corperate espionage and price fixing are highly illegal and serious practices.
plfrench said:
But it works in business... Saint-Gobain had a record fine of around £800 million (might even have been slightly more) a couple of years back as a result of one of its glazing businesses being found guilty of price fixing.
They wouldn't have applied that fine to a bunch of local dairies who were found to be in a cartel.
Perhaps, as in the case of businesses, a first offense would be able to get away with the standard fine, but subsequent offences should then attract income related fines to avoid those with sufficient money buying their way round the law.
Are you really going to means test everyone who's got more than one ticket? They wouldn't have applied that fine to a bunch of local dairies who were found to be in a cartel.
Perhaps, as in the case of businesses, a first offense would be able to get away with the standard fine, but subsequent offences should then attract income related fines to avoid those with sufficient money buying their way round the law.
What about when they are £300k in debt, do they get off free?
It's easy money for the council, and he can afford it, so let him do it.
k15tox said:
the comments are hilairous!
but at the end of the day if your not disabled dont park in them.
although it always make me chuckle when i see 'sports cars' in disabled spots. (with the badge)
so you can get into a car thats two inch of the floor but you cant walk an extra 20 meters?
come off it!
bit of a generalisation,but at the end of the day if your not disabled dont park in them.
although it always make me chuckle when i see 'sports cars' in disabled spots. (with the badge)
so you can get into a car thats two inch of the floor but you cant walk an extra 20 meters?
come off it!
I cant walk 20m and yet I drive a sports car!
Its my left leg which doesn't work, so its a good job its an auto!!!
MX7 said:
Are you really going to means test everyone who's got more than one ticket?
What about when they are £300k in debt, do they get off free?
It's easy money for the council, and he can afford it, so let him do it.
The cost of means testing every single person would make it pointless anyway. As i said, parking is a civil offence, ability-to-pay has nothing to do with civil offences such as parking. Reclassify parking as a criminal offence and that might be different but parking penalty revenue is too important to council budgets for that to ever happen.What about when they are £300k in debt, do they get off free?
It's easy money for the council, and he can afford it, so let him do it.
If you applied ability-to-pay to parking then people with no money will essentially be parking for free and as crass as this sounds theres far more people with no or very little money than people with bags of money who can afford Veyrons. So you'd end up with a much bigger problem. It'd look good politically so as the one rich person who illegally parks ends up paying £10,000 for it but that'd be coupled with the vast majority mostly escaping penalties. Someone who has no income with everything on the drip (including the wrongly parked car) can park for free every day but Veyron man cant?
Traffic Wardens probably dont mind ticketing things like that Veyron, the owner wont care so the warden wont get any abuse. Its such a minor issue and a small problem that its not worth worrying about.
MX7 said:
Are you really going to means test everyone who's got more than one ticket?
What about when they are £300k in debt, do they get off free?
It's easy money for the council, and he can afford it, so let him do it.
That's why I said repeat offenders would be subject to it, rather than on the first offense. In the case of people who didn't have an income, then the statutory £60 (or whatever it is ) would still stand. What about when they are £300k in debt, do they get off free?
It's easy money for the council, and he can afford it, so let him do it.
As has been said though, it would be ridiculous to be able to police it, and therefore nothing will change, those who can afford to, can continue to treat disabled spaces as their own.
Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff