Supercar or not?

[mjwscorpio]

Friends have suggested that a Porsche 911 is not a supercar. Any thoughts?

[Mutt]

Good question. Asked before, with poll:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[stewart rix]

I tend to agree with your friend. They are super cars, just not supercars. Far too common and not nearly enough 'theatre'. 959, Carrera GT and GT1 are the only road going ones from the marque I can think of.

Edited by stewart rix on Tuesday 29th November 08:22

[Magic919]

I'd mostly agree with them. Great sports car though.

[911p]

The 911 is a sports car, not a supercar.

[Robb F]

911p said:

The 911 is a sports car, not a supercar.

I concur

[Zp]

I'll also concur.

However - EVO place from the Turbo upwards into the Supercar section.

[AY]

The gt3/2 might just squeak in to junior supercar territory

[redback911]

I guess its subjective but I tend to put anything capable of 200mph into the Supercar category. 911-wise, I do not think any standard 911 (GT2, GT3, turbo) is capable of >200mph. production Porsches capable of >200mph are the Carrera GT and GT1 (?).

Other production cars capable of >200mph include the (obvious) Veyron, McLaren F1, Enzo, Zonda and Mercedes SLR.

[betternotbigger]

GT2 yes
GT3 no

In the case of the GT2 it's the combination of lower regions of supercar price and the "windowmaker" rep.

GT3 is IMO the ultimate driver's car, which is a different category (to me, anyway)

[redback911]

betternotbigger said:

GT2 yes
GT3 no

In the case of the GT2 it's the combination of lower regions of supercar price and the "windowmaker" rep.

GT3 is IMO the ultimate driver's car, which is a different category (to me, anyway)

Ah, but is the 997 GT2 a "widowmaker", as it has all the fluffy (PSM and TC) driver aids, unlike the 996 GT2. Although it definitely ticks the supercar price box.

[Crimp a Length!]

I concur the 996 GT2 is a supercar, its also a scarycar.
Only driver aid is the heater.

[crisisjez]

GT2 is a "yesteryears" supercar no doubt.
By todays standards....no
And I don't think the 911(turbo) even qualifies as a sports car anymore, being more of a GT.

[mollytherocker]

anonymous said:

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I would go with that.

However, the GT1 is a super car and maybe the 959 too.

MTR

[kbf1981]

mjwscorpio said:

Friends have suggested that a Porsche 911 is not a supercar. Any thoughts?

What's a supercar? The 911 beats the crap out of a Ferrari 360 in pure performance terms, and no one would argue the 360 is a supercar. What's a supercar then?

- performance (GTR?)
- rarity (Alfa SZ?)
- prestige (Aston?)

A lot of people would argue Aston's are supercars, yet an M3 will outrun the V8V. 911's are common, but then again so are 430's (granted much more common).

At the end of the day, it's a supercar if you think it is, and it's not if you don't.

[fioran0]

Not!!

[Scelto]

That's totally subjective, especially since there's no authoritative definition of what a "supercar" actually is, and that which might once have been considered a supercar may no longer fit the bill as technology and expectations move on.

Personally, I've never considered any 911 to be a supercar but I couldn't say why.

They all meet the basic need to be super-quick and handle super-well, after all...

Perhaps in my little world supercars should be a bit more exclusive than the mass-produced 911.

[wineman02]

I got asked this very question yesterday when I asked by my friend what car I had bought. They were guessing and asked if it was a supercar. I replied that it was a sports car (a C4S).

To me a sports car is the likes of:-

911
Ferrari 430
M3
Evora


A super car is the likes of:-
Murci
Ferrari 458
Ferrari 599 GTO
McLaren MP4 12C
Gallardo
911 GT2 or 3


Hypercars are the likes of-:
Zonda
McLaren F1
Koenigsegg
Veyron


I can be swayed though!

[khushy]

a supercar is ultra-rare, totally exotic, stunningly beautiful, high-maintenance and faster than fk . . . . ........... . 911 = FAIL!

CGT = PASS
CTR thingy = PASS
959 = PASS

end of!

[Steve Rance]

Just a label, means nothing