Tyre choice - what do you reckon?
Tyre choice - what do you reckon?
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minghis

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1,576 posts

273 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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About to replace the fronts on my (front wheel drive) company hack - I've got it down to two possibles based on various on line reviews.

245/45/ZR18 - Choice between Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta or Uniroyal Rainsport 2.

I would like good wet weather grip as a priority, and am not too bothered about all out dry weather grip or track days as I'm getting a bit too old for all that... and only need the fronts as the rears (Conti Sport Contact 3's) are only half worn.

Thoughts (or other options) appreciated.


BoostMonkey

579 posts

207 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Rainsports, and get the new tyres put on the back and the conti's moved to the front.

jagnet

4,373 posts

224 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Nokian Z G2 for a less well known, but very good tyre. Consistently praised in tests for its wet weather grip and handling. Mytyres are showing the Nokian to be a fraction cheaper than your suggestions as an added bonus.

busta

4,504 posts

255 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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I've got Uniroyal rainsports and have been impressed with them in the wet and dry.

minghis

Original Poster:

1,576 posts

273 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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BoostMonkey said:
Rainsports, and get the new tyres put on the back and the conti's moved to the front.
I've heard this before, but logic says it's better to have the newest tyre on the front with the deepest tread to clear the water? Or not..

jagnet

4,373 posts

224 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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minghis said:
I've heard this before, but logic says it's better to have the newest tyre on the front with the deepest tread to clear the water? Or not..

Pros and cons either way.

Imho, whilst in theory the front tyres will cut a path through the standing water for the rears to follow, when cornering the rears will cut the corner and be exposed to the deeper water. Cornering is also where you least want to be exposed to rear end aquaplaning.

As much as a little back end movement is fun when pushing on, aquaplaning is a different kettle of fish. I'd personally be inclined to put the newer ones on the back, but I have done the opposite on several occasions and not had any problems.

As always, different cars, driving styles and conditions mean the answer can be argued back and forth for longer than you keep the new tyres.



ShampooEfficient

4,278 posts

233 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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minghis said:
BoostMonkey said:
Rainsports, and get the new tyres put on the back and the conti's moved to the front.
I've heard this before, but logic says it's better to have the newest tyre on the front with the deepest tread to clear the water? Or not..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5YsQ_a_ijA

VBH has spoken. And you will listen. And ogle, maybe,

sherman

14,801 posts

237 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Im about to replace all 4 tyres on my car which are exactly the same size as the OP's and I have gone for Falken 452s. Have I done the right thing?

ShampooEfficient

4,278 posts

233 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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sherman said:
Im about to replace all 4 tyres on my car which are exactly the same size as the OP's and I have gone for Falken 452s. Have I done the right thing?
Excellent tyres, the only issue I had was putting 220bhp through the fronts, enthusiastically, meant they had a lifespan measured in weeks.

sherman

14,801 posts

237 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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ShampooEfficient said:
sherman said:
Im about to replace all 4 tyres on my car which are exactly the same size as the OP's and I have gone for Falken 452s. Have I done the right thing?
Excellent tyres, the only issue I had was putting 220bhp through the fronts, enthusiastically, meant they had a lifespan measured in weeks.
Erm. Im going to be putting 230bhp through the rears. I hope they should be ok.

Deerfoot

5,143 posts

206 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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busta said:
I've got Uniroyal rainsports and have been impressed with them in the wet and dry.
I concur. I've had Rainsport 2 on the front of my Polo for the last 15,000 miles (Pirelli P Zero Nero on the rear) and they're great. They appear to be wearing well too.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

268 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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sherman said:
Im about to replace all 4 tyres on my car which are exactly the same size as the OP's and I have gone for Falken 452s. Have I done the right thing?
Mid-priced tyre. Decent grip, shorter life.

For the OP I guess the only question is how much his company will allow to be spent on some proper tyres before they hit the roof over the bill!

wolves_wanderer

12,912 posts

259 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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sherman said:
Im about to replace all 4 tyres on my car which are exactly the same size as the OP's and I have gone for Falken 452s. Have I done the right thing?
They aren't exactly the same size. The correct profile is 225/45r18 not 245/45r18.

I'm not trying to pull you up, just make sure you get the proper size tyres smile

sherman

14,801 posts

237 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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wolves_wanderer said:
sherman said:
Im about to replace all 4 tyres on my car which are exactly the same size as the OP's and I have gone for Falken 452s. Have I done the right thing?
They aren't exactly the same size. The correct profile is 225/45r18 not 245/45r18.

I'm not trying to pull you up, just make sure you get the proper size tyres smile
:goesofftocheckreciept:


It is 225/45 r18s Im getting. It was just a typo that I didnt spot when posting first time.

wolves_wanderer

12,912 posts

259 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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sherman said:
wolves_wanderer said:
sherman said:
Im about to replace all 4 tyres on my car which are exactly the same size as the OP's and I have gone for Falken 452s. Have I done the right thing?
They aren't exactly the same size. The correct profile is 225/45r18 not 245/45r18.

I'm not trying to pull you up, just make sure you get the proper size tyres smile
:goesofftocheckreciept:


It is 225/45 r18s Im getting. It was just a typo that I didnt spot when posting first time.
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jon-

16,534 posts

238 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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Ultrac Sessanta - fairly old tyre now, still good performance for the price though.
Rainsport 2 - excellent performance, but many reports of poor steering feel.

If you're looking for the new mid range king, my choice is this:

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Fulda-SportCo...

SWoll

21,657 posts

280 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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sherman said:
Erm. Im going to be putting 230bhp through the rears. I hope they should be ok.
Wil be fine. Had a set on an E46 330i with the same BHP (but more torque wink ) a few years ago and had no problems. Lasted a lot better than the Toyo Proxes I had on it beforehand if memory serves. Good wet/dry grip and progressive breakaway if pushed too hard.

bennyboysvuk

3,494 posts

270 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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I've just put Vredesteins Ultrac Sessantas on the back of my M3 with 6 month old Contis on the front and my feeling is that the Vredesteins have tipped the balance to it being rear end grippy now.

This is great for getting the power on out of corners, but it's adjusted the grip balance to the rear which is far less fun overall. frown

For excellent grip I'd recommend the Vredesteins.

sherman

14,801 posts

237 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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SWoll said:
sherman said:
Erm. Im going to be putting 230bhp through the rears. I hope they should be ok.
Wil be fine. Had a set on an E46 330i with the same BHP (but more torque wink ) a few years ago and had no problems. Lasted a lot better than the Toyo Proxes I had on it beforehand if memory serves. Good wet/dry grip and progressive breakaway if pushed too hard.
Thats good to know as its toyo proxes that are coming off mine.

XVar

121 posts

173 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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I've had the Rainsport 2's on my Z3 for 6 months and they're great in the wet. They also taught me an important lesson - don't leave 4 new tyres stacked in your kitchen for a week unless you want UNIROYAL RAINSPORT 2 chemically burnt into your lino biggrin