08 Vogue to Disco 4 HSE?
Discussion
I do love driving my Vogue, which has only 30k miles on the clock but I feel that it's time to change and, as my three younger kids are 14, 14 (twins) and almost 16, they are constantly fighting for leg space in the back - so I'm now looking at a 2012 model Discovery 4 HSE.
But will I regret it?
There's loads more space, the glass roof sections are lovely, more seats to spread out in etc so it makes more sense but it's not another Vogue.
I'm only doing about 12k miles per annum and I'm sure that it makes more sense to have a Discovery and the bloody kids fighting all the time in the car drives me to distraction on even the shortest runs so I'm convinced it'll be the right choice
- or am I?
Has anyone else done the same?
But will I regret it?
There's loads more space, the glass roof sections are lovely, more seats to spread out in etc so it makes more sense but it's not another Vogue.
I'm only doing about 12k miles per annum and I'm sure that it makes more sense to have a Discovery and the bloody kids fighting all the time in the car drives me to distraction on even the shortest runs so I'm convinced it'll be the right choice
- or am I?
Has anyone else done the same?
Not quite the same, but I went from an 05 V8 Vogue to an 05 V8 HSE Disco 3, principally as the wife wanted something "more practical".
Absolutely no doubting the qualities and capabilities of the Discos, both 3 and 4, and if you'd never set foot in a Rangie, you'd think they were the absolute pinnacle of 4x4ryness.
Coming from a Rangie into a Disco, you cannot help but feel short changed. For your space and convenience (and again, no denying it has both), you lose one hell of a lot of luxury - looking at the spec list as so many seem to do, there's little to pick between them, but it's about noise, quality of materials, overall feeling and so on.
Conversely, much as it pains me to admit it, she had a point - leather clad, V8ey, leccy everything the Disco may be, but I'll throw anything through the doors or boot with abandon: 4yr old, 6yr old, muddy wife, cows, passing strangers, the works. Ironically it works precisely because it feels so "ordinary" after the Rangie: I simply don't care if it's stained, bruised, battered, lived in, whereas the Rangie I was always that little bit more careful....
To sum up - it'll serve your purpose well and with aplomb as it has done mine. To change for that purpose would be both sensible and the car would be satisfying. To change for change's sake? You'll only feel short changed from that change, so don't change.
Absolutely no doubting the qualities and capabilities of the Discos, both 3 and 4, and if you'd never set foot in a Rangie, you'd think they were the absolute pinnacle of 4x4ryness.
Coming from a Rangie into a Disco, you cannot help but feel short changed. For your space and convenience (and again, no denying it has both), you lose one hell of a lot of luxury - looking at the spec list as so many seem to do, there's little to pick between them, but it's about noise, quality of materials, overall feeling and so on.
Conversely, much as it pains me to admit it, she had a point - leather clad, V8ey, leccy everything the Disco may be, but I'll throw anything through the doors or boot with abandon: 4yr old, 6yr old, muddy wife, cows, passing strangers, the works. Ironically it works precisely because it feels so "ordinary" after the Rangie: I simply don't care if it's stained, bruised, battered, lived in, whereas the Rangie I was always that little bit more careful....
To sum up - it'll serve your purpose well and with aplomb as it has done mine. To change for that purpose would be both sensible and the car would be satisfying. To change for change's sake? You'll only feel short changed from that change, so don't change.
The D4 is just as good as your Rangie, to sit in & drive. Far more practical too & will suit your needs much better. Bottom line, you won't have that 'feeling' you do when thinking about what's parked on your driveway or walking up to your parked Rangie in the carpark.
If you can live with that, then go for it......
If you can live with that, then go for it......
So very true!
Well, I called to look at three last night at the dealer.
Really like the new model, although not quite sure about the dial-a-gear thingy.
Anyway the kids like it and so it looks like the deal will be done tomorrow.
The salesman offered me a good price on the phone and wasn't there when I arrived, and hadn't returned my call that day as promised. It turns out that he'd offered me a deal that they couldn't then agree to - on the phone of course.
Well, I called to look at three last night at the dealer.
Really like the new model, although not quite sure about the dial-a-gear thingy.
Anyway the kids like it and so it looks like the deal will be done tomorrow.
The salesman offered me a good price on the phone and wasn't there when I arrived, and hadn't returned my call that day as promised. It turns out that he'd offered me a deal that they couldn't then agree to - on the phone of course.
Edited by Davel on Thursday 1st December 15:50
Edited by Davel on Thursday 1st December 16:44
Possibly too late as you may have done the deal. But I moved from a late 07 RR S/C to a Disco 4 HSE with loads of extras on (proximity cameras, rear seat DVD, tinted glass, cool box etc etc). I still also have the RR and drive them both back to back on a regular basis, so have a good feel for both
Thoughts:
Positives - The disco is a big leap up in terms of technology and gadgets versus the RR, space is great, especially with 7 up and fuel economy versus my RR is clearly in another galaxy. (26 odd MPG for Disco versus about 14mpg for the RR on mixed driving). It has the same great driving position and I feel as safe in there as I do in the RR
Negatives - LR are very clever and the Disco is purposefully designed to not be a RR, if that makes sense? What always strikes me when i move from car to car, is the Disco feels utiliarian, even with the toys, versus the plushness and sense of occasion the RR has. The materials are cheaper, the headlining is less plush, the leather is of a lower quality and obviously there is less of it, all the seats are slightly less supportive than the RR, the Disco doesnt have a sunglass holder the RR does, and it has pull back sunroof shades, versus the RR having the sunroof lined and built into the roof, the RR has two sunvisors, the Disco just 1...and so the list goes on!
But this is all fine as they fill different gaps in the market place. I love both of them for very different reasons. As some have said on here I dont care if the dogs get their hair all over the back of the Disco, or the kids empty copious amounts of fruit biscuits and chocolate onto the floor (well actually I do, but you get the point!). Whereas in the Rangey I was and still am precious about keeping it tidy and well cared for. If you can keep both, great, if you cant, you wont be disappointed with the Disco, but you will still hanker for a RR at some future stage.
Thoughts:
Positives - The disco is a big leap up in terms of technology and gadgets versus the RR, space is great, especially with 7 up and fuel economy versus my RR is clearly in another galaxy. (26 odd MPG for Disco versus about 14mpg for the RR on mixed driving). It has the same great driving position and I feel as safe in there as I do in the RR
Negatives - LR are very clever and the Disco is purposefully designed to not be a RR, if that makes sense? What always strikes me when i move from car to car, is the Disco feels utiliarian, even with the toys, versus the plushness and sense of occasion the RR has. The materials are cheaper, the headlining is less plush, the leather is of a lower quality and obviously there is less of it, all the seats are slightly less supportive than the RR, the Disco doesnt have a sunglass holder the RR does, and it has pull back sunroof shades, versus the RR having the sunroof lined and built into the roof, the RR has two sunvisors, the Disco just 1...and so the list goes on!
But this is all fine as they fill different gaps in the market place. I love both of them for very different reasons. As some have said on here I dont care if the dogs get their hair all over the back of the Disco, or the kids empty copious amounts of fruit biscuits and chocolate onto the floor (well actually I do, but you get the point!). Whereas in the Rangey I was and still am precious about keeping it tidy and well cared for. If you can keep both, great, if you cant, you wont be disappointed with the Disco, but you will still hanker for a RR at some future stage.
I think that you've summed it all up brilliantly - thanks!
The RR is my pride and joy and I hate it being messed up by the family and there is a sense of occasion each drive.
The Disco is more of a family workhorse and will be great for a couple of years and it won't bother me quite so much as a workhorse and family taxi.
Oh well, order now placed.
Thanks for your input...
The RR is my pride and joy and I hate it being messed up by the family and there is a sense of occasion each drive.
The Disco is more of a family workhorse and will be great for a couple of years and it won't bother me quite so much as a workhorse and family taxi.
Oh well, order now placed.
Thanks for your input...
Edited by Davel on Friday 2nd December 13:33
interesting
Wife has a D3 HSE with about 20k miles on it we also have twin girls age 7 and a third age 3. Im keen to change my bmw 3 series to a FFRR 4.4 so we have a 'smart' car to go out in and a utilitarian D3 for the normal family duties. I cant gell all of us in the BMW and also like the 4wd when I borrow the wifes D3 to get to work in the snow so a FFRR would fit the bill for me but just ensure the kids out of it as much as possible.
We have found the D3 to be great. but worried that a FFRR will be short on space for 3 kids in the back of a FFRR although at 2x 7 and 3 they are smaller then the OP's so should be ok.
Wife has a D3 HSE with about 20k miles on it we also have twin girls age 7 and a third age 3. Im keen to change my bmw 3 series to a FFRR 4.4 so we have a 'smart' car to go out in and a utilitarian D3 for the normal family duties. I cant gell all of us in the BMW and also like the 4wd when I borrow the wifes D3 to get to work in the snow so a FFRR would fit the bill for me but just ensure the kids out of it as much as possible.
We have found the D3 to be great. but worried that a FFRR will be short on space for 3 kids in the back of a FFRR although at 2x 7 and 3 they are smaller then the OP's so should be ok.
Edited by superlightr on Friday 2nd December 16:48
djo said:
Possibly too late as you may have done the deal. But I moved from a late 07 RR S/C to a Disco 4 HSE with loads of extras on (proximity cameras, rear seat DVD, tinted glass, cool box etc etc). I still also have the RR and drive them both back to back on a regular basis, so have a good feel for both
Thoughts:
Positives - The disco is a big leap up in terms of technology and gadgets versus the RR, space is great, especially with 7 up and fuel economy versus my RR is clearly in another galaxy. (26 odd MPG for Disco versus about 14mpg for the RR on mixed driving). It has the same great driving position and I feel as safe in there as I do in the RR
Negatives - LR are very clever and the Disco is purposefully designed to not be a RR, if that makes sense? What always strikes me when i move from car to car, is the Disco feels utiliarian, even with the toys, versus the plushness and sense of occasion the RR has. The materials are cheaper, the headlining is less plush, the leather is of a lower quality and obviously there is less of it, all the seats are slightly less supportive than the RR, the Disco doesnt have a sunglass holder the RR does, and it has pull back sunroof shades, versus the RR having the sunroof lined and built into the roof, the RR has two sunvisors, the Disco just 1...and so the list goes on!
But this is all fine as they fill different gaps in the market place. I love both of them for very different reasons. As some have said on here I dont care if the dogs get their hair all over the back of the Disco, or the kids empty copious amounts of fruit biscuits and chocolate onto the floor (well actually I do, but you get the point!). Whereas in the Rangey I was and still am precious about keeping it tidy and well cared for. If you can keep both, great, if you cant, you wont be disappointed with the Disco, but you will still hanker for a RR at some future stage.
you dont happend to have 3 children do you?Thoughts:
Positives - The disco is a big leap up in terms of technology and gadgets versus the RR, space is great, especially with 7 up and fuel economy versus my RR is clearly in another galaxy. (26 odd MPG for Disco versus about 14mpg for the RR on mixed driving). It has the same great driving position and I feel as safe in there as I do in the RR
Negatives - LR are very clever and the Disco is purposefully designed to not be a RR, if that makes sense? What always strikes me when i move from car to car, is the Disco feels utiliarian, even with the toys, versus the plushness and sense of occasion the RR has. The materials are cheaper, the headlining is less plush, the leather is of a lower quality and obviously there is less of it, all the seats are slightly less supportive than the RR, the Disco doesnt have a sunglass holder the RR does, and it has pull back sunroof shades, versus the RR having the sunroof lined and built into the roof, the RR has two sunvisors, the Disco just 1...and so the list goes on!
But this is all fine as they fill different gaps in the market place. I love both of them for very different reasons. As some have said on here I dont care if the dogs get their hair all over the back of the Disco, or the kids empty copious amounts of fruit biscuits and chocolate onto the floor (well actually I do, but you get the point!). Whereas in the Rangey I was and still am precious about keeping it tidy and well cared for. If you can keep both, great, if you cant, you wont be disappointed with the Disco, but you will still hanker for a RR at some future stage.
I get the feeling that the rear seats in the Disco are a little bit wider than the FFRR. The two extra fold-up seats will also be useful at times.
My three constantly fight for leg room in the back of the FFRR and the smaller of the three always gets the raw deal, so the Disco should solve that.
They'll no doubt still fight but just be sat further apart when they do!
My three constantly fight for leg room in the back of the FFRR and the smaller of the three always gets the raw deal, so the Disco should solve that.
They'll no doubt still fight but just be sat further apart when they do!
Davel said:
I get the feeling that the rear seats in the Disco are a little bit wider than the FFRR. The two extra fold-up seats will also be useful at times.
My three constantly fight for leg room in the back of the FFRR and the smaller of the three always gets the raw deal, so the Disco should solve that.
They'll no doubt still fight but just be sat further apart when they do!
Drag them down to the dealer and find out - on paper there's naff all in it, but I'd suggest the Rangie is wider inside... on the other hand the Disco has 3 seats, whereas the Rangie's more sculpted pews are more akin to 2 seats and a bit inbetween which happens to have a seat belt!My three constantly fight for leg room in the back of the FFRR and the smaller of the three always gets the raw deal, so the Disco should solve that.
They'll no doubt still fight but just be sat further apart when they do!
djo said:
Yes I do have three kids (4, 2 and 6 months) and alas was the key reason why we got the disco as we could not get all three in the back of the FFRR. Just too tight on space with the sculptEd rear seats!!
im hoping and will test our twins as they are now 7 will be in just booster seats and the 3yr old in a high back seat may now fit in the back of the FFRR. I know a few years back when we tried with 2 x high back big seats and a iso fix seat for a 1 yrs they did fit but was very tight.superlightr said:
im hoping and will test a ffrr as our twins as they are now 7 will be in just booster seats and the 3yr old in a high back seat may now fit in the back of the FFRR. I know a few years back when we tried with 2 x high back big seats and a iso fix seat for a 1 yrs they did fit but was very tight.
Thanks for the helpWell the new Disco HSE, a 12 model, was delivered last night and I had very mixed emotions as the Vogue was driven away.
First impressions are pretty good really. I'm still not keen on the boxy shape outside but the space and comfort levels are fine and the engine is very quiet and the gearchanges on the new 8-speed box are very smooth.
Taking it easy for a while as it's only now done 35 miles and they suggest going easy fr the first 1,000 but, overall, very happy.
Oh and the kids love it, so I needn't have worried.
Will maybe go back to a FFRR when the little dears bugger off.
First impressions are pretty good really. I'm still not keen on the boxy shape outside but the space and comfort levels are fine and the engine is very quiet and the gearchanges on the new 8-speed box are very smooth.
Taking it easy for a while as it's only now done 35 miles and they suggest going easy fr the first 1,000 but, overall, very happy.
Oh and the kids love it, so I needn't have worried.
Will maybe go back to a FFRR when the little dears bugger off.
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